Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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looks like the Sony X900H also have the bug:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/offici ... t-61832553
Sorry for my English.
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:22 pm
mehgh750 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:44 am
How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?
looks like the CX or older are fine
Thanks for letting us know.
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am
btw , the answer to your hybrid rpu question is also in my script :P. there's tutorial video. they were made with an older version of the script though.
Wow, thanks that really helps a lot!
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am
well 7.1 EC3 without a core doesn't work on my C8/C2 + ARC AVR , so I don't know
7.1 EC3 with a core plays fine but only the 5.1 core.
eac3 can have a core? I don't know that, I thought only TrueHD should have a core.
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sw5163 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:48 pm
eac3 can have a core? I don't know that, I thought only TrueHD should have a core.
yes, a core is mandatory on bluray disc for EAC3.
i made a demo with a couple different audio you can test (i messed up the last part of the demo though):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D0qlUm ... sp=sharing


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Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 064 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 29.6 MiB (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 340 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Format profile                           : Blu-ray Disc
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 71.0 MiB (5%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #4
ID                                       : 4355 (0x1103)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 35.5 MiB (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #5
ID                                       : 4356 (0x1104)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 62.500 FPS (768 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 71.0 MiB (5%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Sorry for my English.
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Ugh ... I've just unboxed my x800m2 and I can confirm the bug on the LG C1. The LG C1 internal player looks fine.
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deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:06 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:58 am
it's not a player bug.
It's Dolby's faulty implementation in newer TV.
Oh so the new engine is faulty? Then I guess Dolby and LG have to work together to release an update on the newer TVs. I will try tagging Vincent from HDTV Test on twitter so he can be aware of this. He has good contacts at LG.
Thanks! Then just link this post, it has all the bugs we know so far about 2022 LG models.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/2022-l ... t-61675612
And let's wait for a miracle! :D
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 am
Poker354 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:52 am
I’m not sure I’m experiencing this bug. LG CX with Sony X700 and Shield Pro 2019. Testing the videos back and forth (ts on Sony and mp4 on Shield) I could easily see the changes on both. The shield might look slightly better but I easily see them as well on the x700.

X700

https://imgur.com/a/0kYGI5Z/all

Shield

https://imgur.com/a/CIEGd5f/all
yep, CX looks ok. lucky you

please try the cmv4.0 version on your Shield(or TV internal player) and tell us if you get L8 reaction.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tU3VLC ... sp=sharing
What does this do on our TV and UHD BD players? Thanks
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 am
please try the cmv4.0 version on your Shield(or TV internal player) and tell us if you get L8 reaction.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tU3VLC ... sp=sharing
I've tried this on my LG C1 (latest version) using x800m2 (latest firmware) and no visible changes for L3 or L8.
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sofakng wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:32 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:43 am
please try the cmv4.0 version on your Shield(or TV internal player) and tell us if you get L8 reaction.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tU3VLC ... sp=sharing
I've tried this on my LG C1 (latest version) using x800m2 (latest firmware) and no visible changes for L3 or L8.
We thought that this will happen, but can you try it via Shield and TV's Internal player (eg Plex client)?
If those will result in a change then your C1 has cmv4.0 as well (just as 2022 models).
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Can you check the L2 trim in that latest file? (RPU p8.1 L1.L2.L3.L8_cmv40.mp4) It doesn't appear to be working on internal player or Shield TV with LG C1.

The previous file (RPU p8.1 L1.L2_cmv29) does have working L2 trim on Shield TV and internal player.

The other levels (L1, L3, and L8) are all working correctly on Shield TV and internal player, but I'm not sure I can tell a difference in the L8 hue/saturation pictures.
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sofakng wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:41 pm
Can you check the L2 trim in that latest file? (RPU p8.1 L1.L2.L3.L8_cmv40.mp4) It doesn't appear to be working on internal player or Shield TV with LG C1.

The previous file (RPU p8.1 L1.L2_cmv29) does have working L2 trim on Shield TV and internal player.

The other levels (L1, L3, and L8) are all working correctly on Shield TV and internal player, but I'm not sure I can tell a difference in the L8 hue/saturation pictures.
yes this is expected. L8 replaces L2 in CMv4.0.

both the player and TV must support cmv4.0 to get L8 response.

chros wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:20 pm
What does this do on our TV and UHD BD players? Thanks
on the TV and shield, cmv4.0 works as normal L1 + L8
on the bluray player , it behaves the same as cmv2.9 because it doesnt support 4.0.
Sorry for my English.
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sofakng wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:41 pm
Can you check the L2 trim in that latest file? (RPU p8.1 L1.L2.L3.L8_cmv40.mp4) It doesn't appear to be working on internal player or Shield TV with LG C1.

The previous file (RPU p8.1 L1.L2_cmv29) does have working L2 trim on Shield TV and internal player.

The other levels (L1, L3, and L8) are all working correctly on Shield TV and internal player, but I'm not sure I can tell a difference in the L8 hue/saturation pictures.
Nice, thanks for checking!
Don't worry about L2 in cmv4.0, it shouldn't do anything with cmv4.0 devices when L8 is present, and exactly that's what you saw.
https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US
So, in all, your C1 has cmv4.0, just as C2 and that's why we experience the same bug!

Edit: Reset was faster, and thanks for the explanation!
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Well that's depressing.

I just purchased my LG C1 77" less than two weeks ago.

However, I've learned a ton from you guys on the forum. I can't thank you guys enough for researching this and helping us out!

Is there a list of CMv4.0 players? It looks like the Shield TV supports it but obviously has the red crush issue and doesn't support FEL.
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interestingly and kind of a good news, @manix said he got an L8 response on his CX and no L1 bug on the x700... mmm
so there's something going on with the C1/C2
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