RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:02 pm
It sure seems to affect more the scenes where FEL adds a lot to the image and I guess FEL doesn't add much to the MI scene that I compared last night because there's indeed a noticeable difference in certain scenes of the SM disc. Especially the red flower frames where it's very noticeable. But not much different on some other scenes like in the Eagle one though. lldv seem to be slightly more saturated/darker.
Minor brightness difference is fine
Seems LLDV on this device is free of bugs specific to blu-ray players and oppo clone.
Apparently, it is an upstream kernel issue from Amlogic. The Minix U22-XJ firmware is in the same boat, so we should be thankful that Ugoos has at least gotten lossless audio passthrough working through Kodi's IEC packer, which Minix have not.
It doesn't look like something Ugoos can fix themselves. If anything, we should be asking them to fix the DV colourspace issue (the DV on/off setting should be able to be toggled for DV content independently from the output bit depth/colourspace settings for SDR/HDR10 content), and working with the maintainers of the Kodi DV build (fandangos, quietvoid) to help them get the FEL stability on par with Exoplayer (which is what Plex is using behind the scenes).
this player looks as stable as plex for FEL playback and at least gives you 5.1(LPCM) audio with any format.
Also, there's no fel ghosting when you FF to the endings credits of Power Rangers.
Not sure if this player can access network libraries though.
Yes, this player is using the same Exoplayer backend as Plex, so you can expect that its media-playing capabilities are exactly the same.
I agree. But I am mostly getting stable Fel/ lossless audio playback on Minix / Ugoos with Fandangos build IF the file has been prepared lastly by the latest Makemkv.
If anything else has touched the file (toolnix etc) then I get resynch sand audio drops.
This player with Kodi is nearly there, but more stabability and colour space issues fixed
RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:02 pm
It sure seems to affect more the scenes where FEL adds a lot to the image and I guess FEL doesn't add much to the MI scene that I compared last night because there's indeed a noticeable difference in certain scenes of the SM disc. Especially the red flower frames where it's very noticeable. But not much different on some other scenes like in the Eagle one though. lldv seem to be slightly more saturated/darker.
Minor brightness difference is fine
Seems LLDV on this device is free of bugs specific to blu-ray players and oppo clone.
The LLDV output of the Ugoos/Minix is very impressive - no banding and what looks like a very impressive chroma upsampling. Remember the Oppo and any other players that use the Mediatek chipset had very poor chroma upsampling to begin with, but either way this latest version of LLDV seems to have got it all right.
I wanted to mux Zack Snyder's Justice League Dolby Vision mp4 with the Italian E-AC3 track when I found a strange issue... the English movie contains one H265 video track only...
How can this be?
Mediainfo still confirms it is actually a DV mp4, but I can't mux it if it doesn't contain two video tracks right?
Nvidia Shield TV Pro -> DENON AVR-X2200W -> LG OLED65GX6
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:17 pm
I agree. But I am mostly getting stable Fel/ lossless audio playback on Minix / Ugoos with Fandangos build IF the file has been prepared lastly by the latest Makemkv.
If anything else has touched the file (toolnix etc) then I get resynch sand audio drops.
This player with Kodi is nearly there, but more stabability and colour space issues fixed
I'll try the latest makemkv but on my end, from the 4 mkv movies I tried, kodi is mostly unusable at the moment . Power Rangers / Total Recall / Daughter of Darkness .. Only Doctor Sleep MEL is stable but I think I'm noticing some micro stuttering.
dysprosium wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:29 pm
Apparently, it is an upstream kernel issue from Amlogic. The Minix U22-XJ firmware is in the same boat, so we should be thankful that Ugoos has at least gotten lossless audio passthrough working through Kodi's IEC packer, which Minix have not.
It doesn't look like something Ugoos can fix themselves. If anything, we should be asking them to fix the DV colourspace issue (the DV on/off setting should be able to be toggled for DV content independently from the output bit depth/colourspace settings for SDR/HDR10 content), and working with the maintainers of the Kodi DV build (fandangos, quietvoid) to help them get the FEL stability on par with Exoplayer (which is what Plex is using behind the scenes).
Thank's for the info.
One thing I still don't understand is why bitstreaming of lossy audio also doesn't work and why 2 times, I got it to bitstream lossy eac3 atmos(profile 5 ts) and AC3 5.1 with a different movie (power rangers dv mkv). Then in both case after stopping playback , I couldn't reproduce it.
Cr4z33 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:59 pm
I wanted to mux Zack Snyder's Justice League Dolby Vision mp4 with the Italian E-AC3 track when I found a strange issue... the English movie contains one H265 video track only...
How can this be?
Mediainfo still confirms it is actually a DV mp4, but I can't mux it if it doesn't contain two video tracks right?
it is a single layer profile 5 dolby vision from streaming services and it's very different from the dual layer dolby vision you find on bluray discs.
you can add external audio by doing this:
MKV:
1-remux the mp4 with mkvtoolnix (add external audio/subs).
2- import the mkv into the latest makemkv and create a new DV mkv..
TS:
use nightly tsmuxer. (you might have to demux the mp4 first)
MP4:
use mp4box to add external audio.
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:17 pm
I agree. But I am mostly getting stable Fel/ lossless audio playback on Minix / Ugoos with Fandangos build IF the file has been prepared lastly by the latest Makemkv.
If anything else has touched the file (toolnix etc) then I get resynch sand audio drops.
This player with Kodi is nearly there, but more stabability and colour space issues fixed
I'll try the latest makemkv but on my end, from the 4 mkv movies I tried, kodi is mostly unusable at the moment . Power Rangers / Total Recall / Daughter of Darkness .. Only Doctor Sleep MEL is stable but I think I'm noticing some micro stuttering.
dysprosium wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:29 pm
Apparently, it is an upstream kernel issue from Amlogic. The Minix U22-XJ firmware is in the same boat, so we should be thankful that Ugoos has at least gotten lossless audio passthrough working through Kodi's IEC packer, which Minix have not.
It doesn't look like something Ugoos can fix themselves. If anything, we should be asking them to fix the DV colourspace issue (the DV on/off setting should be able to be toggled for DV content independently from the output bit depth/colourspace settings for SDR/HDR10 content), and working with the maintainers of the Kodi DV build (fandangos, quietvoid) to help them get the FEL stability on par with Exoplayer (which is what Plex is using behind the scenes).
Thank's for the info.
One thing I still don't understand is why bitstreaming of lossy audio also doesn't work and why 2 times, I got it to bitstream lossy eac3 atmos(profile 5 ts) and AC3 5.1 with a different movie (power rangers dv mkv). Then in both case after stopping playback , I couldn't reproduce it.
Not sure if this relevant but even though I turned cec off on this machine I still had to place a cec filter on the hdmi, I also have the same set up with my Zidoo Z9X but since I introduced the Minix / Ugoos I have to physically cut the power to the Zidoo (even though it has a cec filter also) or my Denon wont switch on and off and everything acts glitchy, resynchs, won’t turn off etc...
Cr4z33 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:59 pm
I wanted to mux Zack Snyder's Justice League Dolby Vision mp4 with the Italian E-AC3 track when I found a strange issue... the English movie contains one H265 video track only...
How can this be?
Mediainfo still confirms it is actually a DV mp4, but I can't mux it if it doesn't contain two video tracks right?
it is a single layer profile 5 dolby vision from streaming services and it's very different from the dual layer dolby vision you find on bluray discs.
you can add external audio by doing this:
MKV:
1-remux the mp4 with mkvtoolnix (add external audio/subs).
2- import the mkv into the latest makemkv and create a new DV mkv..
TS:
use nightly tsmuxer. (you might have to demux the mp4 first)
MP4:
use mp4box to add external audio.
Thanks mate, but then will Dolby Vision still be there or will it become a normal HDR movie?
Nvidia Shield TV Pro -> DENON AVR-X2200W -> LG OLED65GX6
Cr4z33 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:38 am
Thanks mate, but then will Dolby Vision still be there or will it become a normal HDR movie?
Of course, DV will be there, profile 5 is not compatible with HDR10 unless your player is able to tonemap it. You just have to choose the right container according to your playback device.
RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:07 am
Of course, DV will be there, profile 5 is not compatible with HDR10 unless your player is able to tonemap it. You just have to choose the right container according to your playback device.
Thanks!
Nvidia Shield TV Pro -> DENON AVR-X2200W -> LG OLED65GX6
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:17 pm
I agree. But I am mostly getting stable Fel/ lossless audio playback on Minix / Ugoos with Fandangos build IF the file has been prepared lastly by the latest Makemkv.
If anything else has touched the file (toolnix etc) then I get resynch sand audio drops.
This player with Kodi is nearly there, but more stabability and colour space issues fixed
I'll try the latest makemkv but on my end, from the 4 mkv movies I tried, kodi is mostly unusable at the moment . Power Rangers / Total Recall / Daughter of Darkness .. Only Doctor Sleep MEL is stable but I think I'm noticing some micro stuttering.
dysprosium wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:29 pm
Apparently, it is an upstream kernel issue from Amlogic. The Minix U22-XJ firmware is in the same boat, so we should be thankful that Ugoos has at least gotten lossless audio passthrough working through Kodi's IEC packer, which Minix have not.
It doesn't look like something Ugoos can fix themselves. If anything, we should be asking them to fix the DV colourspace issue (the DV on/off setting should be able to be toggled for DV content independently from the output bit depth/colourspace settings for SDR/HDR10 content), and working with the maintainers of the Kodi DV build (fandangos, quietvoid) to help them get the FEL stability on par with Exoplayer (which is what Plex is using behind the scenes).
Thank's for the info.
One thing I still don't understand is why bitstreaming of lossy audio also doesn't work and why 2 times, I got it to bitstream lossy eac3 atmos(profile 5 ts) and AC3 5.1 with a different movie (power rangers dv mkv). Then in both case after stopping playback , I couldn't reproduce it.
I agree. While there might be an issue with TrueHD or other lossless audio from the amlogic side, DD and DD+ (AC3) should still be able to bitstream. The fact that they aren’t tells me that something is still up on the Ugoos side, or the Plex side.
My Ugoos is coming in Thursday so I’ll report back with my experience playing FEL MKVs via Plex, which is my preferred system.
I reported this to Ugoos, they replied to check what version firmware I was on (0.4.0).
At least I’ve had a reply. Overall I’m happy with the Dolby Vision / TrueHD performance as long as the files are ripped correctly, hope they can fix the colour space issue for SD/HDR10.
DaMacFunkin wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:55 am
I reported this to Ugoos, they replied to check what version firmware I was on (0.4.0).
At least I’ve had a reply. Overall I’m happy with the Dolby Vision / TrueHD performance as long as the files are ripped correctly, hope they can fix the colour space issue for SD/HDR10.
What display do you have hooked up to the Ugoos? If Panasonic OLED.. can you please check your Dolby Vision settings what options you have. Thanks
DaMacFunkin wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:55 am
I reported this to Ugoos, they replied to check what version firmware I was on (0.4.0).
At least I’ve had a reply. Overall I’m happy with the Dolby Vision / TrueHD performance as long as the files are ripped correctly, hope they can fix the colour space issue for SD/HDR10.
What display do you have hooked up to the Ugoos? If Panasonic OLED.. can you please check your Dolby Vision settings what options you have. Thanks
Hi, it’s a LG, the problem will be you rPanasonic eidid isn’t advertising itself as TV-led compatible.
I had a similar thing last year and LG released a firmware update, you should contact Panasonic.
