Pioneer firmware update February 2023

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MrPenguin
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by MrPenguin »

U2CAR wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:12 pm
That's a bummer 😕. Would this drive with a firmware dated around may to July 2023 be possible to downgrade please?
Pioneer firmware dated 2022-12 or later is incompatible with LibreDrive, and cannot be downgraded either.
flintcsci
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by flintcsci »

Just got a BDR-S13UBK from Amazon, came with FW 1.05 dated 2023-08-01.

As I just mentioned in another thread, I think a lot of people would be left less confused if the MakeMKV info did not say "Possible, not yet enabled." It's inaccurate and gives false hope!

Guess I'll have to hit up Billy for one of his.
zaqqaz6917
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by zaqqaz6917 »

It seems Pioneer is also getting out of the drive business and have sold off that division
Essentially they put their own drive production division out of business because of that anti mkv firmware update

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Pioneer-r ... 797.0.html
Coopervid
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

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zaqqaz6917 wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 8:35 am
It seems Pioneer is also getting out of the drive business and have sold off that division
Essentially they put their own drive production division out of business because of that anti mkv firmware update

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Pioneer-r ... 797.0.html
This is the text published by impress.

Pioneer announced that it will withdraw from the optical disc business by transferring all shares of its subsidiary, Pioneer Digital Design and Manufacturing (PDDM), which was responsible for the optical disc-related business, to Shanxichain Light Technology industrial Development Co., Ltd. (Ltd) under the Shanxi Group of China.

For business use, the Yamanishi Group inherited the business. For consumer use, the sale of Pioneer brand products (Pioneer IT Store) is scheduled to close on May 30th. Production of BD drives, etc. has already been completed, and it will be sold as far as inventory for both commercial and commercial use, including discs.

Regarding the reason for the withdrawal and transfer, the company commented, "As the Company makes the selection and concentration of the car electronics business mainly, we have decided that it is desirable to promote the optical disk business not only with the Group, but with a new partner." The products of the Pioneer brand were mainly produced in China, but the production completion period and the cumulative shipment volume are "undisclosed".

After entering the CD-ROM drive in 1992, Pioneer launched a four-speed CD drive in 1995 that supports a four-speed record. In addition, in 2002, the company announced a DVD-R/RW drive that achieved the industry's fastest write speed, which is four times faster on DVD-R and twice as fast on DVD-R.

After that, we released the world's first BD-R 12x record-compatible BD drive, the world's first BDXL compatible BD drive for PC, and the world's first portable UHD BD drive for PC. In addition, it has its own functions such as Pure Read to rip CDs correctly, and the support from AV fans was also thick.

In addition, for repair correspondence for Pioneer products, "The minimum holding period of parts is guaranteed by Pioneer."
Ezatoka
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by Ezatoka »

This is probably the reason, why only now Pioneers can be patched. If this would have been done earlier, Pioneer might have programmed additional protections into the firmware. Now they can't do that anymore.
MartyMcNuts
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by MartyMcNuts »

Not looking good as far as production of optical drives continuing goes....

Excerpt from https://helloexpress.net/pioneer-exits- ... roduction/

"The transition will see Shanxi Group take over the commercial aspects of the optical disc business. For consumers, however, sales of Pioneer-branded products will come to an end with the impending closure of the Pioneer IT Store, scheduled for May 30, 2025. It is important to note that the production of Blu-ray (BD) drives and related discs has already been completed. Consequently, all remaining products, both for commercial and consumer use, will be available only while current stock lasts."

So it sounds like Shanxi won't be manufacturing optical drives. :(
Cheers :D
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duece7
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by duece7 »

Hello,

I've been trying to following this thread and another but can't pinpoint if the below drive will be able to be flashed? I just got my hands on this guy and was excited to try a UHD

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CKDL016067UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05
MartyMcNuts
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by MartyMcNuts »

duece7 wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 3:46 am
Hello,

I've been trying to following this thread and another but can't pinpoint if the below drive will be able to be flashed? I just got my hands on this guy and was excited to try a UHD

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CKDL016067UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05
Currently, no but maybe possible in the near future, according to Mike: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=37848
Cheers :D
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