Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Good morning guys, what addons do you use on Kodi for Plex?

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If I own the Sony X700, is it worth it to buy the Ugoos AM6 Plus? Will there be improvements in picture quality?
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sofakng wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:34 pm Sorry if this is off-topic but what is the best playback using Windows on a PC ultrawide monitor?
MPC-HC (or BE) + madvr(best upscaler) or Windows Energy player (support DV decoding in HDR10 or SDR)

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9p9zh ... n-us&gl=CA
https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR
https://www.videohelp.com/software/MPC-BE
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:15 am If I own the Sony X700, is it worth it to buy the Ugoos AM6 Plus? Will there be improvements in picture quality?
If your TV is CMV4.0, yes. if not, it's still more practical to watch DV movie in mkv container via the network.
Mrmorrison wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:00 am Good morning guys, what addons do you use on Kodi for Plex?
I use the plex ''composite'' addon with Arctic Zephyr skin. You can configure it to work exactly like plex.

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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:08 am
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:15 am If I own the Sony X700, is it worth it to buy the Ugoos AM6 Plus? Will there be improvements in picture quality?
If your TV is CMV4.0, yes. if not, it's still more practical to watch DV movie in mkv container via the network.
Thanks for the reply. My tv is Sony A95L. How can I find out whether it is CMV4.0 or 2.9?
Also, do you have a video that shows the difference in image quality between CMV4.0 on the Ugoos vs CMV2.9 on the X700?
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deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:27 am Thanks for the reply. My tv is Sony A95L. How can I find out whether it is CMV4.0 or 2.9?
Try this in your TV internal player:
1000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/172cFIm ... drive_link
4000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4glXo ... sp=sharing
if you see brightness adjustments, it supports cmv4.0. If it was made after 2019, it most likely support it.

more test files: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... V0E3VVkhiC
Also, do you have a video that shows the difference in image quality between CMV4.0 on the Ugoos vs CMV2.9 on the X700?
The black clipping pattern is crushed in cmv2.9 but not in cmv4.0:
cmv4.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ev16KY ... drive_link
cmv2.9: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cINlFZ ... drive_link
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:10 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:27 am Thanks for the reply. My tv is Sony A95L. How can I find out whether it is CMV4.0 or 2.9?
Try this in your TV internal player:
1000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/172cFIm ... drive_link
4000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4glXo ... sp=sharing
if you see brightness adjustments, it supports cmv4.0. If it was made after 2019, it most likely support it.

more test files: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... V0E3VVkhiC
Also, do you have a video that shows the difference in image quality between CMV4.0 on the Ugoos vs CMV2.9 on the X700?
The black clipping pattern is crushed in cmv2.9 but not in cmv4.0:
cmv4.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ev16KY ... drive_link
cmv2.9: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cINlFZ ... drive_link
Since i dont have super uber fast internet, is there any issue with playback via usb?

I read your spreadsheet and watched the video where you mentioned most bluray releases are cmv2.9. Since i dont plan to do the "transfer cmv4.0 bloc to a cmv2.9 FEL rpu" (seems quite complicated and time consuming), is getting the ugoos just for cmv4.0 still worth it?
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deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:58 pm is getting the ugoos just for cmv4.0 still worth it?
Yes, its a lot better than any other device...

- mkv container is more practical, you can watch makemkv p7 mkvrip without any remuxing/processing to TS.
- Cropped content play properly (no grey black bars)
- gigabit ethernet port
- wifi 6
- no dual track dual layer green screen bug
- no ff/rw bug with long movies
- srt subtitles work
- chapter works
- ISO works
- movie poster, description, rating, tracks info
- Bluetooth remote (x700 remote is garbage). you can also use your TV remote to control it
- playback history/ resuming
Since i dont have super uber fast internet, is there any issue with playback via usb?
Your internet speed and your internal network speed are two different things. In other words, you can stream your movie without an internet connection but USB playback is fine too.
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:13 pm Bluetooth remote (x700 remote is garbage). you can also use your TV remote to control it
Wait, its remote is bluetooth? Will infrared remote still work on it? The reason why I ask is because I use an infrared hub to turn on/off bluray player as part of my smart home automation.
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:13 pm mkv container is more practical, you can watch makemkv p7 mkvrip without any remuxing/processing to TS.
The problem is the subtitles are usually overly bright in hdr/dolby vision, so normally I use tsmuxer to extract the subtitle tracks, then use subtitle_tonemap to reduce their brightness, and reattach the new sub tracks to the film and output to either bdmv folder or m2ts/ts. How do I do that now if I want to output to mkv instead?

All the other things you listed are cool, but I'm mainly concerned about image quality. If the improvement in that department is not substantial enough then I will have to think some more, especially since this device seems to require quite a lot of tinkering to make it work right.

Btw, I just tested the two files you gave:
1000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/172cFIm ... drive_link
4000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4glXo ... sp=sharing
For the 1st file, I didn't see any brightness changes at all. For the 2nd file, I saw the changes only with the first few but none with the rest. What does it say about my tv and cmv4.0 support?
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Wait, its remote is bluetooth? Will infrared remote still work on it? The reason why I ask is because I use an infrared hub to turn on/off bluray player as part of my smart home automation.
it's an IR remote by default.
The problem is the subtitles are usually overly bright
no such issue with SRT subtitles, you 100% control its brightness, colors, size, font etc...
You can still use tone-mapped PGS in MKV.
For the 1st file, I didn't see any brightness changes at all. For the 2nd file, I saw the changes only with the first few but none with the rest. What does it say about my tv and cmv4.0 support?
It means your TV probably has a DV config higher than 1000nits. But since it responds to the 4000nits RPU, it supports CMV4.0.
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:39 pm You can still use tone-mapped PGS in MKV.
How do i reattach the tone-mapped PGS to the mkv file?
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deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:06 pm How do i reattach the tone-mapped PGS to the mkv file?
https://mkvtoolnix.download/
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:08 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:06 pm How do i reattach the tone-mapped PGS to the mkv file?
https://mkvtoolnix.download/
Thanks. Guess there's one more software to learn.
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deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:58 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:10 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:27 am Thanks for the reply. My tv is Sony A95L. How can I find out whether it is CMV4.0 or 2.9?
Try this in your TV internal player:
1000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/172cFIm ... drive_link
4000nits rpu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4glXo ... sp=sharing
if you see brightness adjustments, it supports cmv4.0. If it was made after 2019, it most likely support it.

more test files: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... V0E3VVkhiC
Also, do you have a video that shows the difference in image quality between CMV4.0 on the Ugoos vs CMV2.9 on the X700?
The black clipping pattern is crushed in cmv2.9 but not in cmv4.0:
cmv4.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ev16KY ... drive_link
cmv2.9: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cINlFZ ... drive_link
Since i dont have super uber fast internet, is there any issue with playback via usb?

I read your spreadsheet and watched the video where you mentioned most bluray releases are cmv2.9. Since i dont plan to do the "transfer cmv4.0 bloc to a cmv2.9 FEL rpu" (seems quite complicated and time consuming), is getting the ugoos just for cmv4.0 still worth it?
i've sold my ugoos. yeah, it plays P7 FEL but all other things was a nightmare for me.

-lyp-sync problems
-plex (composite) doesn't see sometimes your external SRT's
-you get sometimes a black screen after rewinding-forwarding
-randomly a black screen for a few seconds (hdmi handshake problems)
-sound drop sometimes
-BDMV/ISO playback is buggy. no rewinding or forwarding. even no pause option (if i'm remember)

you get lot of updates with the nightly build but these problems are not solving. i have a C9 and luckily my tv support all DV profiles except in MKV format. The plex app of my tv is much better in performance. i'm very happy with the doviscript of reset_9999.

i'm gonna wait for a better device in the future like a new shield or chromecast with P7 FEL support. but if you not have an LG tv before 2019, you need the ugoos.
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Clearly theres something wrong with your setup. I have none of those issues....

I would guess the source of your problems is the TS container...
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:52 pm Clearly theres something wrong with your setup. I have none of those issues....

I would guess the source of your problems is the TS container...
other users having the same problems on the ugoos forum. what do you mean with TS? i've always played with MKV, that was the whole purpose of the ugoos. you are a better developer in my eyes than the CE-team :D

my best kodi experience was vero 4k+ osmc. the rest of all other systems where lacking.
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