Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[RESET_9999]

He has the HDfury Vertex which can tell if it's lldv or tv-led DV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4

Ok thanks, well as far as I know, LLDV if it's well made doesn't have to be worst than TV-LED.

The quality I observe in FEL files playback is really good, but I don't have any reference to compare with.

Watch the youtube video I posted. LLDV is confirmed to be worse quality than TV-LED DV. And all the players have the same DV SDK engine, therefore they are all affected by that.
Stacey Spears goes even further and says that LLDV is worse than HDR10.

[XTrojan]

Someone mentioned that the red tint when playing DV on the nvidia shield is caused when playbacking on a Hisense TV. Anyone knows if the red tint bug appears on other TVs like the LG CX?

[RESET_9999]

Someone mentioned that the red tint when playing DV on the nvidia shield is caused when playbacking on a Hisense TV. Anyone knows if the red tint bug appears on other TVs like the LG CX?

the red push issue affects ALL the TV.

[RESET_9999]

@RESET_9999
Please help this user
I tried to use tsmuxer to make bd folder and iso from dtdl mp4 but Dune is playing incorrectly: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dune-h ... t-60517880

there's nothing more I can do. the Dune just doesn't like the fabricated FEL test file.
Anyway, we'll know soon if it can do FEL, @Manixx2020beyound will verify it with the Shogun.

[lexyz]

With available infromation around the web I could say that Dune ignores EL
Confirmation by @Manixx2020beyound is welcome.

[XTrojan]

Someone with knowledge should just create a excel list of BluRay players or Media players that support Dolby Vision with or without FEL and with or without bugs, and if it's TV-led etc. There's a lot of questions going around that'd get resolved that way.

[DolbyVisionFTW]

Someone with knowledge should just create a excel list of BluRay players or Media players that support Dolby Vision with or without FEL and with or without bugs, and if it's TV-led etc. There's a lot of questions going around that'd get resolved that way.

I concur, great idea.

[yossSP]

He has the HDfury Vertex which can tell if it's lldv or tv-led DV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4

Ok thanks, well as far as I know, LLDV if it's well made doesn't have to be worst than TV-LED.

The quality I observe in FEL files playback is really good, but I don't have any reference to compare with.

Watch the youtube video I posted. LLDV is confirmed to be worse quality than TV-LED DV. And all the players have the same DV SDK engine, therefore they are all affected by that.
Stacey Spears goes even further and says that LLDV is worse than HDR10.

Bad news so . I saw Vincent's video before and read Stacey's opinion, but I'm an optimistc. Stacey's test is from september 2019 over TVs and players of this time.
I've compared the native video player of my Panasonic HX1000 with the HDR10+ version of 1917 film versus the Chromecast Dolby Vision version, and both them seem identical, no differences in high lights or shadows, and no washed colours at all.

I'll try to make some tests based on some of the references I have met here.

One more question. Could it be possible that in february firmware (or future update) Google updated the new Chromecast to permit TV-LED playback?

[RESET_9999]

One more question. Could it be possible that in february firmware (or future update) Google updated the new Chromecast to permit TV-LED playback?

Manix will be able to verify that.
the colors as well.

[yossSP]

One more question. Could it be possible that in february firmware (or future update) Google updated the new Chromecast to permit TV-LED playback?

Manix will be able to verify that.
the colors as well.

Thanks. That would be great.

[Manixx2020beyound]

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One more question. Could it be possible that in february firmware (or future update) Google updated the new Chromecast to permit TV-LED playback?

Manix will be able to verify that.
the colors as well.

It’s here & it’s a solid build heavy too
Size compared to a mac m1 mini

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Fingers crossed on Fel lol

[mattmarsden]

Can anyone help me with a Ugoos AM6 plus. When I play a FEL mkv through Kodi DV version or MP4 through internal player it is very choppy. I’ve seen reports here of people playing them fine. MELs work fine so I’m wondering what I’m doing wrong. Thanks

[yossSP]

D0F9086A-5B9B-4773-9F0F-A17459BA04ED.jpeg

One more question. Could it be possible that in february firmware (or future update) Google updated the new Chromecast to permit TV-LED playback?

Manix will be able to verify that.
the colors as well.

It’s here & it’s a solid build heavy too
Size compared to a mac m1 mini
Fingers crossed on Fel lol

Nice to see you Manixx

One more data about Dolby Vision processing of Chromecast with GoogleTV, Vincents says that during a TV-LED playback Dolby Vision IQ can't use the light sensor of the TV, so I tested it again and with my Panasonic HX1000 the sensor is regulating brightness on the image.

[RESET_9999]

@Manixx2020beyound finally got his hands on the new Dune player, time to do some comparisons

Unfortunately, the Dune does like the Shield and ignores the EL but there is no red push and the colors seem to be accurate. Even though it looks like the dune is ignoring the EL, there is still an improvement compared to the base layer. We have to compare it with a P8 rip.

Of course, this is an extreme case and it wouldn't be so different if the studios encoded the base layer properly in the first place but the improvement that the FEL brings here is phenomenal, imaging when we'll have true 12bit TV.

DV captured in PQ with the latest Atomos Shogun.

2160p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11367
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11365
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11366

1080p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11372
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11374
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11375

Dune FEL vs Dune P8 vs X700 FEL vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://slow.pics/c/nCcd2BlK

untouched PQ images from the Shogun:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16HOh1R ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-XW-E ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18qNpoU ... sp=sharing

interesting, the size difference of the lossless png...






I uploaded samples in different container and profile of that scene:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fzJYb ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LtE3ju ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jrDF5j ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mYy3WO ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nD7-MH ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1on9KfI ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xJkiL0 ... sp=sharing

[yossSP]

@Manixx2020beyound finally got his hands on the new Dune player, time to do some comparisons

Unfortunately, the Dune does like the Shield and ignores the EL but there is no red push and the colors seem to be accurate. Even though it looks like the dune is ignoring the EL, there is still an improvement compared to the base layer. We have to compare it with a P8 rip.

Of course, this is an extreme case and it wouldn't be so different if the studios encoded the base layer properly in the first place but the improvement that the FEL brings here is phenomenal, imaging when we'll have true 12bit TV.

DV captured in PQ with the latest Atomos Shogun.

2160p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11367
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11365
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11366

1080p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11372
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11374
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11375

untouched PQ images from the Shogun:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16HOh1R ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-XW-E ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18qNpoU ... sp=sharing

interesting, the size difference of the lossless png...



I uploaded samples in different container and profile of that scene:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fzJYb ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LtE3ju ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jrDF5j ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mYy3WO ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nD7-MH ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1on9KfI ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xJkiL0 ... sp=sharing

Wow! thanks a lot for this battery of samples @RESET_9999

And thanks also to @Manixx2020beyound for this comparison work.

I'll try later with this .mkv and tell how do it the Chromecast.