Flicker Alley BEHIND THE DOOR/BELOW THE SURFACE Fake Playlists

[koberulz]

There are hundreds of playlists on the disc, all with similar running times, but there was nothing in the log about Java having run. Does this mean Java isn't set up correctly, or did it just not run because this disc isn't known to MakeMKV yet?

[koberulz]

Anyone?

[dcoke22]

If you have Java setup correctly it would run if Java is used for menus. But the disc might not use Java, I don't know. I don't have that disc so I can only speculate.

If Java has worked for you in the past, there's no reason to think it wouldn't work now.

Flicker Alley is probably the last publisher to use playlist obfuscation, sadly.

[koberulz]

If you have Java setup correctly it would run if Java is used for menus. But the disc might not use Java, I don't know. I don't have that disc so I can only speculate.

Is it possible to do the playlist obfuscation thing without Java? Is there a way for me to determine whether it's Java or HDMV?

If Java has worked for you in the past, there's no reason to think it wouldn't work now.

I'm not sure if it's worked fine in the past or I've just never run into an obfuscated disc before.

[dcoke22]

Is it possible to do the playlist obfuscation thing without Java? Is there a way for me to determine whether it's Java or HDMV?

I'm not sure. I suppose if you make a decrypted backup of the disc and look in the BDMV folder you'll find a JAR directory. If JAR is empty, then the disc likely does NOT use Java. If there are .jar files in the JAR directory, then the disc likely does use Java.

[koberulz]

Is it possible to do the playlist obfuscation thing without Java? Is there a way for me to determine whether it's Java or HDMV?

I'm not sure. I suppose if you make a decrypted backup of the disc and look in the BDMV folder you'll find a JAR directory. If JAR is empty, then the disc likely does NOT use Java. If there are .jar files in the JAR directory, then the disc likely does use Java.

The JAR folder is indeed empty. So there's no way to know which playlists are correct?

[dcoke22]

If the disc's menu system isn't using Java, then I think it would imply that the menu has the correct playlist hardcoded into whatever button one presses in the menu to play the movie. Unfortunately, I think all that data is encoded in a binary format on the disc. I don't know enough to know how to figure that out from a disc backup.

I've seen some people mention that their disc player briefly shows the playlist on the screen on the player when they start playing a movie.

Maybe GetMPLS will help you figure out the correct playlist. Or perhaps the Process Monitor method.