www.makemkv.com

I wouldn’t expect anything better to be released anytime soon, as the focus is basically shifting to streaming platforms.

The manual DV switching “hassle” on the X700/x800m2 is overrated. It takes 3 clicks on the remote, not really that hard at all.

Your only alternative (automatic DV switching and the ability to play DV via USB) is basically Oppo UDP-203. I had one several years ago and sold it. You can’t find Oppo new anymore.

I would stick to the X800m2, it’s a great player for the money. Regarding it’s LAN speed, someone mentioned the possibility of using a Gigabit USB to LAN adapter, but I can’t recall which brand and model.

RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:59 pm

sofakng wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:43 pm Does anybody have any clever solutions when using a USB HDD on the Sony x800m2?

It seems like a pain to unplug the hard drive, connect to a PC and update the movies, and then reconnect it, etc.

Are there any wifi hard drives or anything to make this process easier and not require unplugging the drive?

The main reason I'm interested in this is for the BDMV support so I don't need to manually enable force subtitles?

@deadchip suggested this. Not sure if he tried.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&p=123354#p123354
I would get one that is USB 3.0 or C though. (if your pc support it)

I heard it is very unstable when working with hard drive, so I no longer want to test it.
Besides, I arranged stuff so that the x700 (now has my usb 3.0 hub plugged in), the hard drive, and the pc's front usb ports are right next to each other and within my reach. So the unplugging/replugging is not that much less convenient compared to pressing a button.

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:40 pm

staknhalo wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:01 pm Do you guys see any difference perceptually with TV led?

it depends on which player you use. On the x700/x800m2/Shield the L1 and L2 trims are not working at all in LLDV.

Interesting, I just checked Oppo setting it to Player-led: all the L2 trims are working, but only L1 lower contrast (last one) resulted in visible change on the G2.

chros wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:07 am Interesting, I just checked Oppo setting it to Player-led: all the L2 trims are working, but only L1 lower contrast (last one) resulted in visible change on the G2.

yep, so far, all the players that have the option in the menu to select LLDV have no issue. Oppo / Dune and Zidoo player.

RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:57 am

chros wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:07 am Interesting, I just checked Oppo setting it to Player-led: all the L2 trims are working, but only L1 lower contrast (last one) resulted in visible change on the G2.

yep, so far, all the players that have the option in the menu to select LLDV have no issue. Oppo / Dune and Zidoo player.

I have an Oppo clone and have been concerned with the recent bug reports. It is almost time for me to buy a new TV and I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.

Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?

jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.
Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?

Well I'm not sure about the CX, we have conflicting reports:
1- viewtopic.php?p=124851#p124851
2- viewtopic.php?p=124749#p124749

jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm if I set my Oppo to player led?

set your Oppo to TV-LED.

RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:31 pm

jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.
Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?

Well I'm not sure about the CX, we have conflicting reports:
1- viewtopic.php?p=124851#p124851
2- viewtopic.php?p=124749#p124749

jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm if I set my Oppo to player led?

set your Oppo to TV-LED.

Thanks very much. I misunderstood the previous posts. I see now that it says, any player with the LLDV switch are not impacted. I thought it was necessary to enable LLDV as a workaround. Understood and thanks very much for your help.

I think I misunderstood too. LLDV (Player-Led) should work on all TVs because the player is basically decoding DoVi into HDR10, right?

Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?

sofakng wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 am Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?

of course, it will work. But we are not talking about the L1 bug with cmv 2.9 hdmi input if that's what you think.

@Chros and I were talking about another bug with the x700/x800m2/shield when connected to an LLDV TV (player-led).

so many DV bugs that it's hard to follow

Oh geez! Haha ... Yeah, there are too many bugs to keep track of.

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:54 am

sofakng wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 am Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?

of course, it will work. But we are not talking about the L1 bug with cmv 2.9 hdmi input if that's what you think.

Oh shoot, OK. That explains my confusion. I thought we were discussing the L1 bug, dang it.

I hope the commercialization of microled tv with 10000 nit brightness is fast tracked. No more of this tonemapping shit like dolby vision is needed.

deadchip12 wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:11 am...microled tv with 10000 nit brightness...

Wow. Other than screen burn-in issues, I wonder if such bright displays could raise worryings about the eyes themselves. Nowadays tv's with "proper" footage already comes close to hurting them.

ArArdin wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:47 am

deadchip12 wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:11 am...microled tv with 10000 nit brightness...

Wow. Other than screen burn-in issues, I wonder if such bright displays could raise worryings about the eyes themselves. Nowadays tv's with "proper" footage already comes close to hurting them.

Yeah 10000 nits will be probably too much, unless if it is for watching outside in daylight. 1000 nits full screen in dim watching environment is already like a flashbang in the face (speaking from experience). Maybe creators should stop mastering contents at 10000 nits.

sure 10 000nits is bright but it's nothing compared to real-life highlights.
I think grading at 10 000nits(or maybe at least 4000) is a good idea as long as you also do the DV trim passes for low-nits TVs.
Because you can keep the highest dynamic range possible and your grade is future-proof for when there are brighter TVs. (eg no need to re-grade the movie in 10 years when all the TVs are 4000nits capable)