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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:58 am it's not a player bug.
It's Dolby's faulty implementation in newer TV.

I thought if you use the LG CX/C1 internal player then it's OK?

If it's the TV then I would expect that to not work?

deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:59 am Could someone explain in layman term how this new L1 bug affects the picture quality?

From https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US To my understanding, L1 contains the overall calculated dynamic range of scene.
L2 contains how exactly filmmaker would want the image to be tone mapped when L1 exceeds the limitation of the TV. It's basically like this:

When the range of a scene is 2-200 nit and TV is 0-1000, nothing will be tone mapped and just follow exactly the PQ curve.
When the range of a scene is 0-2000 and RPU has L2 metadata to instruct how image on 600nit TV should be tone mapped, the TV will follow that curve.
When the range of a scene is 0-2000 but no L2 metadata present, it should generate a default tone mapping curve based on the TV brightness and L1 data and follow that.
So if L1 is not used, it will be HDR10 without tone mapping(clipped).
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm sure it can be fixed through update, so relax.

sw5163 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:27 am Does anyone know if there is a better way to hybrid RPU to BL?

sofakng wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:26 am I thought if you use the LG CX/C1 internal player then it's OK?
If it's the TV then I would expect that to not work?

it's up to the newer hardware to be backward compatible with older stuff, not the other way around.
When you play something with the internal player, there is no cmv2.9 from an external source involved except the content itself.

sw5163 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:31 am So if L1 is not used, it will be HDR10 without tone mapping(clipped).
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

pretty much but the L2 still has an effect when present.
But the thing is that a lot of movies only have a 600nits trim( no effect on bright TV) and some others don't have any (rare).
In that case that's basically static DV. Not to mention all the HDR10plus conversions to DV.

Ahhh! Now I understand ... The problem is between the older players and the newer TVs. Sorry for all the questions!

I’m not sure I’m experiencing this bug. LG CX with Sony X700 and Shield Pro 2019. Testing the videos back and forth (ts on Sony and mp4 on Shield) I could easily see the changes on both. The shield might look slightly better but I easily see them as well on the x700.

X700

https://imgur.com/a/0kYGI5Z/all

Shield

https://imgur.com/a/CIEGd5f/all

Interesting thought,

A majority of my Dolby Atmos DV discs have 7.1 and DD+ can do 7.1 Unless i missed the memo that DV MP4 or TS files doesnt like 7.1, why aernt we using it if Dolby Atmos or Dolby True HD tracks are in 7.1 and the Dolby Scripts downgrades it to 5.1?

why are we losing those two channels cause i do have a system that can do 7.1 and DD+ can have 7.1?

??????

Poker354 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:52 am I’m not sure I’m experiencing this bug. LG CX with Sony X700 and Shield Pro 2019. Testing the videos back and forth (ts on Sony and mp4 on Shield) I could easily see the changes on both. The shield might look slightly better but I easily see them as well on the x700.

X700

https://imgur.com/a/0kYGI5Z/all

Shield

https://imgur.com/a/CIEGd5f/all

yep, CX looks ok. lucky you

please try the cmv4.0 version on your Shield(or TV internal player) and tell us if you get L8 reaction.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tU3VLC ... sp=sharing

djanvi2020 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:40 am Interesting thought,

A majority of my Dolby Atmos DV discs have 7.1 and DD+ can do 7.1 Unless i missed the memo that DV MP4 or TS files doesnt like 7.1, why aernt we using it if Dolby Atmos or Dolby True HD tracks are in 7.1 and the Dolby Scripts downgrades it to 5.1?

why are we losing those two channels cause i do have a system that can do 7.1 and DD+ can have 7.1?

??????

ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.
DEE does but I'm not able to get 7.1 audio from my C2 internal player to my AVR (might be because my avr is ARC)

Also, the 7.1 EC3 from bluray disc doesnt work, it plays the 5.1 core on my C8/C2.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.

That is not true. ffmpeg supports:
7.1 trueHD/atmos copy
7.1 trueHD, flac, PCM copy and encoding
6.1 alac encoding
7.1 eac3/atmos copy
5.1 eac3 encoding
5.1 ac3 encoding
I’m not familiar with all the DTX sound.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am DEE does but I'm not able to get 7.1 audio from my C2 internal player to my AVR (might be because my avr is ARC)

ARC should be able to do 7.1 eac3/atmos at best, through HDMI 2.0
7.1 eac3 without atmos through HDMI 1.3
eARC is only needed for TrueHD and PCM In case anyone want this, it's from https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/106809463. I don't own it.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:31 am

deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:59 am I'm using the recently purchased x700 with the lg c9 oled and it sucks if it turns out the x700 is unusable again.

C9 has the old DV engine so you don't have this problem.

How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?

sw5163 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 am

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.

That is not true. ffmpeg supports:
7.1 trueHD/atmos copy
7.1 trueHD, flac, PCM copy and encoding
6.1 alac encoding
7.1 eac3/atmos copy
5.1 eac3 encoding
5.1 ac3 encoding
I’m not familiar with all the DTX sound.

lol we are talking about my script and EC3 encoding.. I know ffmpeg can copy 7.1 audio

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:54 am lol we are talking about my script and EC3 encoding.. I know ffmpeg can copy 7.1 audio

Sorry, my bad.

sw5163 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 am ARC should be able to do 7.1 eac3/atmos at best, through HDMI 2.0
7.1 eac3 without atmos through HDMI 1.3
eARC is only needed for TrueHD and PCM
sound_specs.png
In case anyone want this, it's from https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/106809463. I don't own it.

well 7.1 EC3 without a core doesn't work on my C8/C2 + ARC AVR , so I don't know
7.1 EC3 with a core plays fine but only the 5.1 core.

btw , the answer to your hybrid rpu question is also in my script . there's tutorial video. they were made with an older version of the script though.

mehgh750 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:44 am How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?

looks like the CX or older are fine