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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:01 pm
by RESET_9999
thanks, @quietvoid for confirming, that is what I expected.
IMO it is better to convert any itunes/appletv profile 5 DV to profile 8 .
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:19 pm
by staknhalo
yeah i wonder why they're doing it then if intentional or if they even know they are
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 pm
by drew_nickel
@reset_9999
I'm sure you have already covered this, but whats the benefit of converting to profile 8?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 pm
by RESET_9999
drew_nickel wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 pm
@reset_9999
I'm sure you have already covered this, but whats the benefit of converting to profile 8?
for the itunes web-dl = better and more accurate colors
for everything else = just personal preference because I have TVs that don't support DV
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:44 am
by staknhalo
I also found another very niche reason but applicable to me - if you use Phillips Hue lights and Hue Sync with your TV (I use Hue Essentials on my Shield in lieu of an official Sync Box) - it works with unprotected DV content like through Plex but it samples just the base layer without any of the color transformation in the DV metadata so it incorrectly just mimics red and greens for p5 files, for p7 and p8 files with HDR10 base layer, appropriate matching colors are output
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:19 am
by redoine322
RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 pm
drew_nickel wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 pm
@reset_9999
I'm sure you have already covered this, but whats the benefit of converting to profile 8?
for the itunes web-dl = better and more accurate colors
for everything else = just personal preference because I have TVs that don't support DV
What about Tvs that support Dv ( i have Lg C1 ) what is the Best Profile @reset_9999
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:47 pm
by RESET_9999
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:19 am
What about Tvs that support Dv ( i have Lg C1 ) what is the Best Profile @reset_9999
itunes: P8
the rest: P5
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:52 pm
by redoine322
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:47 pm
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:19 am
What about Tvs that support Dv ( i have Lg C1 ) what is the Best Profile @reset_9999
itunes: P8
the rest: P5
thanks How i can get that with your Script Plz From BDMV thanks again for the Help @reset_9999
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:40 pm
by RESET_9999
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:52 pm
thanks How i can get that with your Script Plz From BDMV thanks again for the Help @reset_9999
all this talk is about WEB-DL from streaming services. From a BD source, you'll always get P8 or P7 depending on the workflow you chose.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:55 pm
by redoine322
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:40 pm
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:52 pm
thanks How i can get that with your Script Plz From BDMV thanks again for the Help @reset_9999
all this talk is about WEB-DL from streaming services. From a BD source, you'll always get P8 or P7 depending on the workflow you chose.
understood ... is there any deference between P5 and 8 ?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:20 pm
by RESET_9999
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:55 pm
understood ... is there any deference between P5 and 8 ?
P5 use a more efficient colorspace
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:37 pm
by redoine322
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:20 pm
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:55 pm
understood ... is there any deference between P5 and 8 ?
P5 use a more efficient colorspace
is there any way we can get a P5 ? just wanna get the best out of My new Tv

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:45 pm
by RESET_9999
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:37 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:20 pm
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:55 pm
understood ... is there any deference between P5 and 8 ?
P5 use a more efficient colorspace
is there any way we can get a P5 ? just wanna get the best out of My new Tv
No you cant convert P7/P8 to P5 yet.
If you want the best quality , you need a device capable of playing dual layer DV like the X700 / X800m2 / OPPO
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:40 pm
by redoine322
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:45 pm
redoine322 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:37 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:20 pm
P5 use a more efficient colorspace
is there any way we can get a P5 ? just wanna get the best out of My new Tv
No you cant convert P7/P8 to P5 yet.
If you want the best quality , you need a device capable of playing dual layer DV like the X700 / X800m2 / OPPO
got it i was able to get this result what do think about it ..... it noticeably less Brighter then P7 .
Code: Select all
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\Users\HICHA\Desktop\first\BL_EL_RPU.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 53.9 GiB
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 73.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mb/s
Video
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+EL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate : 67.8 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.341
Stream size : 50.1 GiB (93%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 602 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 184 cd/m2
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : 135
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 62.500 FPS (768 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.13 GiB (2%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:57 pm
by RESET_9999
that is not how it works, you're just changing the container profile and not the actual RPU metadata profile.
As I said, you can't convert P8/P7 to P5.