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definitely going to try that file. thank'sshawnc22 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:52 pm The only official profile 4 video I can think of is the lg demo from here: https://4kmedia.org/lg-dolby-vision-uhd-4k-demo/. I haven’t looked at this video closely or compared the playback off anything else to see if there’re any evidence of the red push here.
I've conduct the same comparison with your pattern DV file.RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm So, I did more comparison with my x700 and I just can't get a perfect match with any of the single-layer BL+EL+RPU( FEL or MEL). I'm starting to think that the Shield just can't play them properly because I can get a perfect match with the genuine profile 5 full range files from streaming services but never with the uhd-bd rip. It actually makes sense, maybe the shield was never meant to play dual layer rip.
Using a real profile 5(BL+RPU) test pattern, the Vertex completely fixes the red push issue and the colors match the x700 perfectly.
Shield Vertex fix VS x700 default mode: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4939
Shield Vertex fix VS Shield RGB bt2020 default: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4938
test pattern: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JURFyX ... sp=sharing
Spears & Munsil disc.
I see a red push even with the Vertex.
Shield Vertex fix VS Shield RGB bt2020 default https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4940
Shield Vertex fix VS x700 default mode: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4941
x700 default mode VS Shield RGB bt2020 default: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4942
interesting..... yours appear undersaturated compared to the philips and yes indeed, very different than my comparisons but I noticed your taking pictures in a bright room. My pictures were taken in a complete dark room ( black velvet everywhere) without any light. Perhaps thats the difference ? I dont know but I'm clearly getting the same color difference no matter how many comparisons i do.Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:15 pm I've conduct the same comparison with your pattern DV file.
I compared the mp4 played with my Shield RGB bt2020 and with in-app Philips
Shield Normal VS Philips TV https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4946
And my results seems slightly differents
Cyan is brighter with my shield but i'm not sure about a red push
it's very strange
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:01 pminteresting..... yours appear undersaturated compared to the philips and yes indeed, very different than my comparisons but I noticed your taking pictures in a bright room. My pictures were taken in a complete dark room ( black velvet everywhere) without any light. Perhaps thats the difference ? I dont know but I'm clearly getting the same color difference no matter how many comparisons i do.Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:15 pm I've conduct the same comparison with your pattern DV file.
I compared the mp4 played with my Shield RGB bt2020 and with in-app Philips
Shield Normal VS Philips TV https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4946
And my results seems slightly differents
Cyan is brighter with my shield but i'm not sure about a red push
it's very strange
Also, I assume your camera settings are locked?
Very close to what I see on my tvRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm Spears & Munsil disc.
I see a red push even with the Vertex.
x700 default mode VS Shield RGB bt2020 default: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4942
I can't tell there is any noticeable red pushRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm test pattern: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JURFyX ... sp=sharing
do you have any device that can tell you if you are getting RGB 8bit DV or LLDV 12bit?Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:08 pm
It's not in a bright room, just ambilight activated. I could try to turn off ambilight.
And yes I locked my camera Settings (ISO, Shutter Speed, Aperture, White Balance)
I will also try later today or tomorrow the video with plex running on Philips to see if the problem come from Multimedia App or Shield TV
yeah, with a Sony TV, you shouldn't have any red push with genuine profile 5 files or from any streaming apps.lexyz wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pm
I can't tell there is any noticeable red push
Bravia internal Plex vs Shield Plex
Bravia's internal apps are brighter, so ignore brightness difference
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4951
My TV tells me that I receive 8bit RGB when using Nvidia ShieldRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:26 pmdo you have any device that can tell you if you are getting RGB 8bit DV or LLDV 12bit?Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:08 pm
It's not in a bright room, just ambilight activated. I could try to turn off ambilight.
And yes I locked my camera Settings (ISO, Shutter Speed, Aperture, White Balance)
I will also try later today or tomorrow the video with plex running on Philips to see if the problem come from Multimedia App or Shield TV
Interesting. is it an OLED ? I wonder if that could matter.Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:30 pm
My TV tells me that I receive 8bit RGB when using Nvidia Shield
Finallylexyz wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmVery close to what I see on my tvRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm Spears & Munsil disc.
I see a red push even with the Vertex.
x700 default mode VS Shield RGB bt2020 default: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4942
I can't tell there is any noticeable red pushRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm test pattern: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JURFyX ... sp=sharing
Bravia internal Plex vs Shield Plex
Bravia's internal apps are brighter, so ignore brightness difference
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4951
Yes it's the OLED934 modelRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm Interesting. is it an OLED ? I wonder if that could matter.
8Bit RGB is normal for DV if your TV supports it, which looks like it does. Are you not also seeing the BT2020 tag next to 8Bit RGB when playing DV off the Shield?Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:52 pmYes it's the OLED934 modelRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm Interesting. is it an OLED ? I wonder if that could matter.
It's pretty strange
In the shield setup I have YCbCr 4:2:2 BT2020 DV Ready
When I read :
- DV Files my TV displays DV 8bit RVB
- HDR10 Files my TV displays HDR BT2020 8bit
but if I setup to YCbCr 4:2:0 BT2020 without DV
HDR10 Files my TV displays HDR BT2020 10bit
But I can only have info if source is from HDMI, so I have no clue about info while playing HDR10 or DV Files with InApp Philips
Yes I did not specify but it's BT2020shawnc22 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:55 pm8Bit RGB is normal for DV if your TV supports it, which looks like it does. Are you not also seeing the BT2020 tag next to 8Bit RGB when playing DV off the Shield?Darthjipsu wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:52 pmYes it's the OLED934 modelRESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm Interesting. is it an OLED ? I wonder if that could matter.
It's pretty strange
In the shield setup I have YCbCr 4:2:2 BT2020 DV Ready
When I read :
- DV Files my TV displays DV 8bit RVB
- HDR10 Files my TV displays HDR BT2020 8bit
but if I setup to YCbCr 4:2:0 BT2020 without DV
HDR10 Files my TV displays HDR BT2020 10bit
But I can only have info if source is from HDMI, so I have no clue about info while playing HDR10 or DV Files with InApp Philips
Now I'm confused...SamuriHL wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:12 pm I meant to mention this before but just an FYI, when playing these discs on my UB820, it is also showing RGB 8 bit BT.2020. And yet it has the correct color space.