Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

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xenphor
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

Post by xenphor »

Okay, the other drive arrived. Here is the info:

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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
So far I've tried inserting a UHD and it couldn't read it. Seems like old firmware though?
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

Post by Billycar11 »

xenphor wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:32 pm
Okay, the other drive arrived. Here is the info:

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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
So far I've tried inserting a UHD and it couldn't read it. Seems like old firmware though?
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

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xenphor wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:32 pm
Okay, the other drive arrived. Here is the info:

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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
So far I've tried inserting a UHD and it couldn't read it. Seems like old firmware though?
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

Post by asmcom »

xenphor wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:02 am
Coopervid wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:31 am
Just post your Makemkv info for both drives when you get them. If you are lucky the XS07 has old firmware.
I received the Vinpower drive. Here is the info:

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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr0
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212V
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: ....
Firmware date: 2022-05-31
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8F00
Firmware version: ID06
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

Post by xenphor »

So far I've noticed that the Pioneer drives have lower average read speeds compared to the Asus drive. The Asus drive can go up to 8x and hovers around 6-7x often, whereas the Pioneer drives are usually around 4-5x or lower. This happens with the Asus drive in an external NexStar enclosure and the 212v connected via Sata.

There have been a couple titles that the Pioneer drives ripped that the Asus could not; however, there are still discs that none of the 4 drives I have can rip. These are all used condition blurays.

Annoyingly, one of the discs I ripped was in obviously poor condition but succeeded, whereas other discs that appeared to be in much better shape failed, so I can't go by appearance.
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Re: Are Pioneer drives *that* much better at ripping scuffed blurays?

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xenphor wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:17 am
So far I've noticed that the Pioneer drives have lower average read speeds compared to the Asus drive. The Asus drive can go up to 8x and hovers around 6-7x often, whereas the Pioneer drives are usually around 4-5x or lower. This happens with the Asus drive in an external NexStar enclosure and the 212v connected via Sata.

There have been a couple titles that the Pioneer drives ripped that the Asus could not; however, there are still discs that none of the 4 drives I have can rip. These are all used condition blurays.

Annoyingly, one of the discs I ripped was in obviously poor condition but succeeded, whereas other discs that appeared to be in much better shape failed, so I can't go by appearance.
The most important function when ripping discs is to thoroughly clean the discs you are backing up. We cannot empatize this enough. Even a scratch or finger mark will stop a disc from backing up properly.

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