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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:54 am
by RESET_9999
The colorist can choose a tuning parameter that controls the aggressiveness of Dolby Vision tone mapping. Lower values result in less tone mapping and a brighter image, while higher values apply more aggressive tone mapping, resulting in a darker image.
https://slow.pics/c/OA0pupEN
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:45 pm
by coopzr
deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:33 am
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:28 am
p5 or p8 doesnt matter. they have the same metadata
Do these plots look normal (it's Dune Prophecy)? :
bluray's madvr plot:
web's madvr plot:
web's DoVi plot:
What is the point of generating DoVi plot if it always looks different from the other two?
You've uploaded the web dovi plot twice.
If you are wondering why the madvr plot looks different to the Dovi plot, it's because DV (& HDR10+) metadata are meant to be used during playback for tone mapping. They don't always represent the actual brightness (1:1) of the shots. madmeasureHDR.exe will always be more representative of the actual brightness.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:08 pm
by deadchip12
coopzr wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:45 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:33 am
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:28 am
p5 or p8 doesnt matter. they have the same metadata
Do these plots look normal (it's Dune Prophecy)? :
bluray's madvr plot:
web's madvr plot:
web's DoVi plot:
What is the point of generating DoVi plot if it always looks different from the other two?
You've uploaded the web dovi plot twice.
If you are wondering why the madvr plot looks different to the Dovi plot, it's because DV (& HDR10+) metadata are meant to be used during playback for tone mapping. They don't always represent the actual brightness (1:1) of the shots. madmeasureHDR.exe will always be more representative of the actual brightness.
Yeah my bad. That was supposed to be the web's hdr10 madvr plot, which looked similar to the bluray's one, meaning the transfer can be done.
I just wondered why we needed to generate the dovi plot here if they would look different to the madvr plot anyway.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:40 pm
by valington
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:28 pm
Your video is missing the framerate at the bitstream level. You can fix it in 9-2
This used to be the case with all the Apple WEB-DL, but now, all the reputable groups fix it.
ragico wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:15 pm
Hi RESET_9999 ,
Karate Kid Legends has got both DV8 and HDR10+
I want to remove HDR10+ and use your scripts workflow 2-2
Everyhting was done and the resulting file is "Karate Kid Legends_HDR10plus_removed". But why his framerate is 25.000 fps whilst the original movie is 23.976 fps?
Thanks
Reset which workflow to use for the making mp4 5 profile dolby vision from mkv 5 profile dolby vision ?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:30 pm
by RESET_9999
valington wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:40 pm
Reset which workflow to use for the making mp4 5 profile dolby vision from mkv 5 profile dolby vision ?
mp4 version workflow 5
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 6:23 am
by afsajahanara
Dolby Vision can now be included in MP4 files using MP4 Muxing. This advancement allows for high dynamic range (HDR) video content to be distributed more easily while maintaining compatibility and superior visual quality across supported devices and platforms.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:39 pm
by deadchip12
@RESET9999
May I ask what HYBRID in the title actually means? I thought it meant this version already included DV cmv 4.0 from the web version but upon checking with dovi scripts it does not.
The.Accountant.2.2025.UHD.BluRay.2160p.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.DV.HDR10P.HEVC.HYBRID.REMUX-FraMeSToR.mkv
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:43 pm
by uhdiznotenough4mee
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:39 pm
@RESET9999
May I ask what HYBRID in the title actually means? I thought it meant this version already included DV cmv 4.0 from the web version but upon checking with dovi scripts it does not.
The.Accountant.2.2025.UHD.BluRay.2160p.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.DV.HDR10P.HEVC.HYBRID.REMUX-FraMeSToR.mkv
In this example HDR10+ was injected from WEB-DL to UHD Blu-ray remux, which includes DoVi as retail.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:12 am
by deadchip12
uhdiznotenough4mee wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:43 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:39 pm
@RESET9999
May I ask what HYBRID in the title actually means? I thought it meant this version already included DV cmv 4.0 from the web version but upon checking with dovi scripts it does not.
The.Accountant.2.2025.UHD.BluRay.2160p.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.DV.HDR10P.HEVC.HYBRID.REMUX-FraMeSToR.mkv
In this example HDR10+ was injected from WEB-DL to UHD Blu-ray remux, which includes DoVi as retail.
Thanks. Wonder why they didn't transfer cmv 4.0 from WEB-DL as well...
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:32 pm
by kazuma
why are some movies 4000nits MDL on the disc? and other ones 1000nits? what are the differences?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:45 pm
by coopzr
@RESET_9999 In the case of How to Train Your Dragon (2025), why would the artist put all that effort into a detailed 100nit trim, only to cancel it at 300nits? Feels like a waste of time and effort.
Also, how do the saturation and hue fields work? Are they applied regardless of TV capabilities, or do they target a specific trim?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:59 pm
by RESET_9999
kazuma wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:32 pm
why are some movies 4000nits MDL on the disc? and other ones 1000nits? what are the differences?
it's a studio decision to grade movies on 4000 or 1000 nits mastering monitor.
coopzr wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:45 pm
@RESET_9999 In the case of How to Train Your Dragon (2025), why would the artist put all that effort into a detailed 100nit trim, only to cancel it at 300nits? Feels like a waste of time and effort.
Also, how do the saturation and hue fields work? Are they applied regardless of TV capabilities, or do they target a specific trim?
Because the 100-nit trim is delivered for the SDR Blu-ray release. Personally, I like when they explicitly cancel trim interpolation to other targets like that. It shows that the colorist knows what he’s doing and that he wanted the 100-nit trim to be more aggressive while keeping the higher targets intact, since most of this movie sits under 300 nits anyway and don't need tone mapping.
When they apply a strong 100-nit trim, if they push it too far, it can result in higher targets appearing brighter than the HDR master. That doesn’t really make sense, because with a 1000-nit MDL DV grade, those trims will be ignored on TVs with a peak brightness higher than the 1000 nits MDL. So if the 100-nit trim ends up brightening beyond the master, an 800-nit TV could actually show a brighter HDR presentation than a 1000-nit+ TV, which isn’t logical. The whole purpose of trims is to fine-tune tone mapping when the content exceeds the TV’s capabilities, not to make the image brighter than the HDR master itself.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:35 pm
by coopzr
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:59 pm
Because the 100-nit trim is delivered for the SDR Blu-ray release.
Makes sense.
Do you mind explaining what saturation and hue fields are and how they work? I don't recall you talking about them in your explanation videos. The only thing I know is that they have something to do with colors... and they appear to be set by the colorist during some parts of movies.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:01 am
by RESET_9999
They’re essentially just extra fine-tuning colors controls for the colorist during the SDR trim pass creation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 600–1000-nit trim that actually makes use of them, but it’s possible.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:13 pm
by kazuma
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:59 pm
kazuma wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:32 pm
why are some movies 4000nits MDL on the disc? and other ones 1000nits? what are the differences?
it's a studio decision to grade movies on 4000 or 1000 nits mastering monitor.
but what is the benefit of 4000nits over 1000nits? do you get higher brightness on tv's that supports high nits?