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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:41 am
by deadchip12
Where's the issue in that pic? I see no banding or posterization.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:51 am
by daffie
@RESET
Hopefully a GOOD calibration will fix some things. Best to wait until the new TV has at least 100 hours uptime.
But I doubt you can get this black crush fixed in DV with calibration. 72-73 is really bad.
And hopefully firmware upgrades will do the rest to fix the issues.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:32 am
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:41 am
Where's the issue in that pic? I see no banding or posterization.
this is not just one pic.. click on the image to switch to the HDR10 pic (or use your keyboard arrow)
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:35 am
by RESET_9999
daffie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:51 am
@RESET
Hopefully a GOOD calibration will fix some things. Best to wait until the new TV has at least 100 hours uptime.
But I doubt you can get this black crush fixed in DV with calibration. 72-73 is really bad.
And hopefully firmware upgrades will do the rest to fix the issues.
actually this is a slight improvement in cmv 2.9 4000 and 10 000nits.
And this is my first oled that doesn't raise black in DV
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:27 pm
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:27 pm
blacks are not raised in DV but crushed, even in cmv4.0

There is actually no difference at all in DV black crush on this TV... cmv2.9 4.0, 10 000 4000 1000, all crushed the same at 72-73.
HDR10 and SDR are ok
So, even when you put your face right up to the screen, you still can't see the 65 to 72 flashing bars?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:01 pm
by daffie
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:27 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:27 pm
blacks are not raised in DV but crushed, even in cmv4.0

There is actually no difference at all in DV black crush on this TV... cmv2.9 4.0, 10 000 4000 1000, all crushed the same at 72-73.
HDR10 and SDR are ok
So, even when you put your face right up to the screen, you still can't see the 65 to 72 flashing bars?
You don't need to see bar 65 and 66. Read my post from a few days ago.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:09 pm
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:27 pm
So, even when you put your face right up to the screen, you still can't see the 65 to 72 flashing bars?
Yes, and even in cmv4.0 which is quite surprising. I'm confident this can be calibrated out.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:02 pm
by daffie
Lol that markswift prefers his Zidoo crap over the Ugoos.
"The Ugoos (or similar) is worth it for curiosity, but definitely not stable enough for a daily driver."
Haha
https://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thread ... 066/page-3
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:12 pm
by RESET_9999
lol ugoos is actually 100% stable. I love the zidoo and Shield fanboy.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:13 pm
by daffie
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:09 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:27 pm
So, even when you put your face right up to the screen, you still can't see the 65 to 72 flashing bars?
Yes, and even in cmv4.0 which is quite surprising. I'm confident this can be calibrated out.
If you have a good calibration guy who knows his stuff inside and out.
Not like my guy who didn't even look at the shadow detail in DoVi and just did an autocal which made things worse.
Would love to know some calibrator in Belgium or The Netherlands who knows his stuff 100%.
There seems to be no one

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:25 pm
by SamuriHL
Ugoos not stable enough for daily? Oh crap, I better change my usage then.

It's been rock solid for me on the latest CPM build. I do MKV backups of all my movies and it handles them all with exceptional quality.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:26 pm
by daffie
SamuriHL wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:25 pm
Ugoos not stable enough for daily? Oh crap, I better change my usage then.

It's been rock solid for me on the latest CPM build. I do MKV backups of all my movies and it handles them all with exceptional quality.
That markswift has no clue what he is talking about.
He has his head stuck up his own Zidoo ass.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:29 pm
by SamuriHL
daffie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:13 pm
If you have a good calibration guy who knows his stuff inside and out.
Not like my guy who didn't even look at the shadow detail in DoVi and just did an autocal which made things worse.
Calibration is not easy. I'm still a novice and I've been doing it since the C8. What I will say is that if you don't have anyone that can do it locally it might be worth investing in the equipment to do it. What calibration software you choose can make a difference, too.
I mean this thread is about getting the highest quality you can out of your rips. Not having a properly calibrated display negates a lot of that effort IMO.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:33 pm
by SamuriHL
daffie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:26 pm
That markswift has no clue what he is talking about.
He has his own head to high up his Zidoo ass.
I don't give those people any attention. It becomes pretty clear who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't fairly quickly. Results speak for themselves. And the Ugoos with CPM is the best device I've used for DV playback.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:35 pm
by daffie
SamuriHL wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:29 pm
daffie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:13 pm
If you have a good calibration guy who knows his stuff inside and out.
Not like my guy who didn't even look at the shadow detail in DoVi and just did an autocal which made things worse.
Calibration is not easy. I'm still a novice and I've been doing it since the C8. What I will say is that if you don't have anyone that can do it locally it might be worth investing in the equipment to do it. What calibration software you choose can make a difference, too.
I mean this thread is about getting the highest quality you can out of your rips. Not having a properly calibrated display negates a lot of that effort IMO.
I know it's not easy. I read some things about it the last week and it's complicated like hell.
I don't have the time to invest in it.
But if you call yourself a professional calibrator and ask A LOT of money for it you should at least improve on the default setting.....