Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Thanks Guys,
Was seriously thinking of buying a Diva and selling My Oppo clone, saved me a lot of money, cheers.
Was seriously thinking of buying a Diva and selling My Oppo clone, saved me a lot of money, cheers.
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kazuma
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
what's a diva?DaMacFunkin wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:52 am Thanks Guys,
Was seriously thinking of buying a Diva and selling My Oppo clone, saved me a lot of money, cheers.
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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Me when I am trying to show the Mrs Red Push and White Clipping lol.kazuma wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:30 amwhat's a diva?DaMacFunkin wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:52 am Thanks Guys,
Was seriously thinking of buying a Diva and selling My Oppo clone, saved me a lot of money, cheers.
It is the Big Bother of the Vertex 2, a few extra features and led light control.
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ragico
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Tested and it works. I added 1 audio track and 2 subtitle tracks to the original mkv ripped with makemkv last versionglc650 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:31 pm There's an mkvtoolnix update (49).
From the release notes:
mkvmerge: added support for copying the new track header elements BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValue and BlockAddIDExtraData from Matroska files if they exist. Part of the implementation of #2887.
mkvinfo: added support for the new track header elements BlockAdditionMapping, BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValueandBlockAddIDExtraData`. Part of the implementation of #2887.
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2887
Does this mean mkvtoolnix now supports DV MKVs?
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SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Yea please don't do that.DaMacFunkin wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:15 amMe when I am trying to show the Mrs Red Push and White Clipping lol.kazuma wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:30 amwhat's a diva?DaMacFunkin wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:52 am Thanks Guys,
Was seriously thinking of buying a Diva and selling My Oppo clone, saved me a lot of money, cheers.
It is the Big Bother of the Vertex 2, a few extra features and led light control.
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Peter Quill
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Hi.RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:00 pmyes but only the mkv created by makemkv.glc650 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:31 pm There's an mkvtoolnix update (49).
From the release notes:
mkvmerge: added support for copying the new track header elements BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValue and BlockAddIDExtraData from Matroska files if they exist. Part of the implementation of #2887.
mkvinfo: added support for the new track header elements BlockAdditionMapping, BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValueandBlockAddIDExtraData`. Part of the implementation of #2887.
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2887
Does this mean mkvtoolnix now supports DV MKVs?
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p= ... tcount=841
On this subject, if I use ffmpeg to copy, will it work in the same way as MKVToolNix? Or does ffmpeg still need new updates for this to work?
I use a recent BETA / Nightly version.
I'm new to this subject, so I don't have a lot of knowledge.
Thanks.
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791567/
bit of an update for those following. good news that it's gone up the chain all the way to dolby (although they may not be entirely happy we've been creating these frankenstein files off of uhd discs
), so hopefully a resolution is in sight
bit of an update for those following. good news that it's gone up the chain all the way to dolby (although they may not be entirely happy we've been creating these frankenstein files off of uhd discs
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
why the hell would they make that test with a uhd-bd rip? They need to test genuine profile 5 full-range content (Netflix, disney+, vudu etc) since no one knows if the Shield can play uhd-bd DV rip properly in the first place.shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:46 pm https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791567/
bit of an update for those following. good news that it's gone up the chain all the way to dolby (although they may not be entirely happy we've been creating these frankenstein files off of uhd discs), so hopefully a resolution is in sight
omg, they took pictures as we do, but not even in a dark room, pictures not even taken at the same distance... Thought they would use a color meter or something more professional.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791563/
eventhough the distance difference and the bright room, I still can see the same red push on the red flower in their pictures:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/5129
I don't know.Peter Quill wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:34 pm
On this subject, if I use ffmpeg to copy, will it work in the same way as MKVToolNix? Or does ffmpeg still need new updates for this to work?
I use a recent BETA / Nightly version.
I'm new to this subject, so I don't have a lot of knowledge.
Thanks.
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mike admin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Latest MKVToolnix only preserves DV descriptors, so you have to have a "good" MKV file to begin with.Peter Quill wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:34 pm On this subject, if I use ffmpeg to copy, will it work in the same way as MKVToolNix? Or does ffmpeg still need new updates for this to work?
Both mkvmerge and ffmpeg (all versions really) preserve bitstream data.
Ffmpeg and all previous versions of mkvmerge destroy DV metadata.
Next version of MakeMKV would be able to open an MKV file with totally bogus or missing DV metadata and fully rebuild a proper DV metadata. I feel sort of proud of it, as no other tool can do that, not even mp4mux
This effectively makes it possible to edit and convert any file to a proper DV MKV - copy/convert mp4 or ts to MKV with ffmpeg or mkvmerge, edit as you wish, then open with MakeMKV and it would rebuild all descriptors and make a nice clean DV MKV. That's how the test samples at https://www.makemkv.com/download/dvtest/ were made. PM if you want it for testing...
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I'm sure they've tested profile 5 videos as well, but the doctor sleep sample was just the most prominent one that showed off the issue. It's also the one that was more readily available since I chopped up a sample of it. By using it and actually trying to correct behavior off of it, it's a good sign that it's meant to be supported, no? Otherwise, they could've simply just said it's not a supported file and no further action is needed. They may ultimately come back and say that these files are beyond the capabilities of the Shield, but at least they're trying to get to the bottom of it. As for the colorimeter and such, they're still out of the office at the moment so testing equipment and environment is understandably limited.RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:58 pmwhy the hell would they make that test with a uhd-bd rip? They need to test genuine profile 5 full-range content (Netflix, disney+, vudu etc) since no one knows if the Shield can play uhd-bd DV rip properly in the first place.shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:46 pm https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791567/
bit of an update for those following. good news that it's gone up the chain all the way to dolby (although they may not be entirely happy we've been creating these frankenstein files off of uhd discs), so hopefully a resolution is in sight
omg, they took pictures as we do, but not even in a dark room, pictures not even taken at the same distance... Thought they would use a color meter or something more professional.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791563/
eventhough the distance difference and the bright room, I still can see the same red push on the red flower in their pictures:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/5129
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SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ohhhhhhh FFS. Well, it's been fun while it lasted. Getting Dolby involved was the WORST possible outcome as they will order them to kill any "support" for it or lose their Dolby certification. F*************.shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:46 pm https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... n/2791567/
bit of an update for those following. good news that it's gone up the chain all the way to dolby (although they may not be entirely happy we've been creating these frankenstein files off of uhd discs), so hopefully a resolution is in sight
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I really hope the did try profile 5 content. A bit disappointed by their response.shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:02 pm
I'm sure they've tested profile 5 videos as well, but the doctor sleep sample was just the most prominent one that showed off the issue. It's also the one that was more readily available since I chopped up a sample of it. By using it and actually trying to correct behavior off of it, it's a good sign that it's meant to be supported, no? Otherwise, they could've simply just said it's not a supported file and no further action is needed. They may ultimately come back and say that these files are beyond the capabilities of the Shield, but at least they're trying to get to the bottom of it. As for the colorimeter and such, they're still out of the office at the moment so testing equipment and environment is understandably limited.
Anyway, I really hope they figure it out so I can finally enjoy my 6-month-old Shield with only 24h of use lol.
haha! that would be awful.SamuriHL wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Ohhhhhhh FFS. Well, it's been fun while it lasted. Getting Dolby involved was the WORST possible outcome as they will order them to kill any "support" for it or lose their Dolby certification. F*************.
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SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Yes, nVidia is and I commend them for it. But bringing this directly to Dolby was NOT wise. They are going to get slapped hard.shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:02 pm
I'm sure they've tested profile 5 videos as well, but the doctor sleep sample was just the most prominent one that showed off the issue. It's also the one that was more readily available since I chopped up a sample of it. By using it and actually trying to correct behavior off of it, it's a good sign that it's meant to be supported, no? Otherwise, they could've simply just said it's not a supported file and no further action is needed. They may ultimately come back and say that these files are beyond the capabilities of the Shield, but at least they're trying to get to the bottom of it. As for the colorimeter and such, they're still out of the office at the moment so testing equipment and environment is understandably limited.
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
caveat is Dolby did put out the instructions themselves to convert dual PID to single PID so somebody was bound to try it
, but excuse me while I go disable auto-update on my Shield...
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SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
You're not wrong but I think they figured "screw everyone, there's no devices that'll play them anyway so let's tease them." Now it's going to be "oh shit! STOP THAT!"shawnc22 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:36 pm caveat is Dolby did put out the instructions themselves to convert dual PID to single PID so somebody was bound to try it, but excuse me while I go disable auto-update on my Shield...