No I haven't, that's a good idea. I'll make an mp4 out of it and try that later.RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:22 pmDid you compare your Shield with the C8 internal player? Because my x700(RGB no bt2020) is identical to my C8 internal player and using the vertex, the shield is identical to my x700.SamuriHL wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:37 pm I was mistaken about that. It's always sending RGB 8 bit BT2020 for UHD discs. At least on my C8.
internal C8 vs x700 RGB no bt2020
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4954
Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Playing the mp4 on my LG internal player right now. Identical from what I can see to the UB820 which is to my eye identical to the SHIELD on the MKV without the Integral 2 scaling.
EDIT:
HURRAY! I found it. Finally. At 23 seconds during the mountain with cloud scene. Absolutely crystal clear red push in the clouds on the shield. Not there with the UB820 or the LG internal player. Maybe hurray was not exactly warranted. More like ****!!!! LOL But at least I can now confirm that yes, red push is there. That's without the scaling active on the Integral 2.
EDIT 2:
Enabling scaling has absolutely no impact on the issue whatsoever. Red push is still there either way. This frame absolutely shows the issue very clearly, and we can't fix it.
EDIT:
HURRAY! I found it. Finally. At 23 seconds during the mountain with cloud scene. Absolutely crystal clear red push in the clouds on the shield. Not there with the UB820 or the LG internal player. Maybe hurray was not exactly warranted. More like ****!!!! LOL But at least I can now confirm that yes, red push is there. That's without the scaling active on the Integral 2.
EDIT 2:
Enabling scaling has absolutely no impact on the issue whatsoever. Red push is still there either way. This frame absolutely shows the issue very clearly, and we can't fix it.
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XF90hepe9 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:51 pm Finally
I can see clearly the problem with DV and Bravia Tvs
With DV through HDMI is more darkness than trough apps
What model have you?
I can't understand why Sony don't fix the problem
But actually this comparison is misleading.
I rarely use internal apps and didn't know Apps and HDMI has different picture settings within same Picture mode, including BFI level.
Comparison regarding brightness will be redone with equal settings
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
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The same Tv as melexyz wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:14 amXF90hepe9 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:51 pm Finally
I can see clearly the problem with DV and Bravia Tvs
With DV through HDMI is more darkness than trough apps
What model have you?
I can't understand why Sony don't fix the problem
But actually this comparison is misleading.
I rarely use internal apps and didn't know Apps and HDMI has different picture settings within same Picture mode, including BFI level.
Comparison regarding brightness will be redone with equal settings
DV trought HDMI in Bravia's is broken
The settings are the same, you can't do nothing to fixed it, the only thing you can do is send the images to Sony and post all over the forums, becouse I read many times the problem, but I never saw a comparison, and it is a shame.
Many users complained to Sony, but Sony doesn't do nothing, you have the images, you can do more damage than only with the text, thats a huge brightness difference
You can search all over the internet, this crap happend with 2018 model's, 2019 model's (here they introduced DV Normal and DV Bright, but that not fix the problem) and i pretty sure the problem persist in 2020 models
PD:I recommend you this sites to spread this crap;
https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/
https://www.avforums.com/forums/sony-tvs-forum.113/
https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussions/Q ... view-notes
And of course, contact to Sony, everyone who contacted Sony was ignored, if they ignored you with the proof of the images put it too in the forums
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yep, the vertex is not able to fix the red push on dual-layer files but on my end, it does fix it completely with profile 5 files.SamuriHL wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:57 pm Playing the mp4 on my LG internal player right now. Identical from what I can see to the UB820 which is to my eye identical to the SHIELD on the MKV without the Integral 2 scaling.
EDIT:
HURRAY! I found it. Finally. At 23 seconds during the mountain with cloud scene. Absolutely crystal clear red push in the clouds on the shield. Not there with the UB820 or the LG internal player. Maybe hurray was not exactly warranted. More like ****!!!! LOL But at least I can now confirm that yes, red push is there. That's without the scaling active on the Integral 2.
EDIT 2:
Enabling scaling has absolutely no impact on the issue whatsoever. Red push is still there either way. This frame absolutely shows the issue very clearly, and we can't fix it.
If you have some free time, could you test the color bars sample, please?
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&start=2745#p93833
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Will do tonight.RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:07 pm yep, the vertex is not able to fix the red push on dual-layer files but on my end, it does fix it completely with profile 5 files.
If you have some free time, could you test the color bars sample, please?
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&start=2745#p93833
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I've redone comparison with defaulft (equal) DV settings for App and HDMI input and locked camera settings
Take a look https://slow.pics/c/QYWod22x
As I can see HDMI mostly a bit brighter.
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
So the last comparative you posted? and saying the internal apps are more brighter?lexyz wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmI've redone comparison with defaulft (equal) DV settings for App and HDMI input and locked camera settings
Take a look https://slow.pics/c/QYWod22x
As I can see HDMI mostly a bit brighter.
As I previously published, is not a thing I say, all internet saying the same, including a dedicated web to analyze tvslexyz wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pm Bravia internal Plex vs Shield Plex
Bravia's internal apps are brighter, so ignore brightness difference
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4951
PD: the people try to fix it (but is not a fix) in advanced setting upping the gamma
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Hasty conclusion based on assumption of equality of picture settings within one Picture mode for apps and hdmi inputs.hepe9 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:08 pm So the last comparative you posted? and saying the internal apps are more brighter?
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
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And what settings were you supposed to have changed before?
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And the last comparision; https://slow.pics/c/QYWod22x are from " dv default" in app and hdmi?
You are the first person I see that DV works correctly throught hdmi, even with more brightness, so congratulations
Could you post the comparison with the "calibration colors" you posted before, with the defaults settings in HDMI? it would be interesting to see
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
What about the Shield 2019?
Does it now play remuxed FEL DV videos with hd audio?
If yes could somebody briefly describe the container format and settings?
Does it now play remuxed FEL DV videos with hd audio?
If yes could somebody briefly describe the container format and settings?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
There's an mkvtoolnix update (49).
From the release notes:
mkvmerge: added support for copying the new track header elements BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValue and BlockAddIDExtraData from Matroska files if they exist. Part of the implementation of #2887.
mkvinfo: added support for the new track header elements BlockAdditionMapping, BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValueandBlockAddIDExtraData`. Part of the implementation of #2887.
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2887
Does this mean mkvtoolnix now supports DV MKVs?
From the release notes:
mkvmerge: added support for copying the new track header elements BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValue and BlockAddIDExtraData from Matroska files if they exist. Part of the implementation of #2887.
mkvinfo: added support for the new track header elements BlockAdditionMapping, BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValueandBlockAddIDExtraData`. Part of the implementation of #2887.
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2887
Does this mean mkvtoolnix now supports DV MKVs?
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yes but only the mkv created by makemkv.glc650 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:31 pm There's an mkvtoolnix update (49).
From the release notes:
mkvmerge: added support for copying the new track header elements BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValue and BlockAddIDExtraData from Matroska files if they exist. Part of the implementation of #2887.
mkvinfo: added support for the new track header elements BlockAdditionMapping, BlockAddIDName, BlockAddIDType, BlockAddIDValueandBlockAddIDExtraData`. Part of the implementation of #2887.
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2887
Does this mean mkvtoolnix now supports DV MKVs?
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p= ... tcount=841
