Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Please post here for issues related to UHD discs
Post Reply
chrisandy
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri May 29, 2020 6:33 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by chrisandy »

jlpsvk wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?
Annotation 2020-06-04 225541.png
Annotation 2020-06-04 225541.png (33.36 KiB) Viewed 33006 times
jlpsvk
Posts: 50
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:33 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jlpsvk »

chrisandy wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 am
jlpsvk wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?

Annotation 2020-06-04 225541.png
you need to use BL+RPU, not BL+EL+RPU (MODE 2 of tool)
VictorLemon
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020 2:24 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by VictorLemon »

Hello, does anyone know how to add subtitles to the MP4 container without losing the DV?

a greeting
flashback8
Posts: 48
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:20 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by flashback8 »

sonysg wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am
sonysg wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:23 am Dear all,

I'm using OPPO 205 and Sony X950G

I have a problem when playing Dolby Vision disc or MP4 muxed Dolby Vision files

How could we enforced film to full screen(No Black bar) when play back DV contains? It said this operation is not permitted when I pressed "Zoom" on the Oppo's remote

I could do full screen easily on HDR10 but not in Dolby Vision format, only Full screen Dolby Vision contain could (i.e BumbleBee, Transformer 4) :( I wish I could to do that for every Dolby Vision titles to enhance the movie viewing experience

How to we bypass this restriction? it could because of the metadata of second layer(1920*1080) of Dolby Vision contains prevent this to be happened, because muxing Dolby Vision using MP4 container is possible now, I would like to save hard disk space and get rid of black bar whenever possible, Does MakeMKV allow or maximise the full screen properties when muxing in MP4 format?

Looking forward for your suggestion
I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.
shawnc22
Posts: 637
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:40 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 »

jlpsvk wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:34 pm
chrisandy wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 am
jlpsvk wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?

Annotation 2020-06-04 225541.png
you need to use BL+RPU, not BL+EL+RPU (MODE 2 of tool)
No you don't for the Shield and mode 2 of yusecope's tool gives you BL+EL+RPU, not BL+RPU.
sonysg
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue May 26, 2020 5:10 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sonysg »

flashback8 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:07 pm
sonysg wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am
sonysg wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:23 am Dear all,

I'm using OPPO 205 and Sony X950G

I have a problem when playing Dolby Vision disc or MP4 muxed Dolby Vision files

How could we enforced film to full screen(No Black bar) when play back DV contains? It said this operation is not permitted when I pressed "Zoom" on the Oppo's remote

I could do full screen easily on HDR10 but not in Dolby Vision format, only Full screen Dolby Vision contain could (i.e BumbleBee, Transformer 4) :( I wish I could to do that for every Dolby Vision titles to enhance the movie viewing experience

How to we bypass this restriction? it could because of the metadata of second layer(1920*1080) of Dolby Vision contains prevent this to be happened, because muxing Dolby Vision using MP4 container is possible now, I would like to save hard disk space and get rid of black bar whenever possible, Does MakeMKV allow or maximise the full screen properties when muxing in MP4 format?

Looking forward for your suggestion
I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.
Do you have news or link for that claimed its underpowered? Oppo already stop the production of 203/205 unlikely they would fix this issue on these model, too bad not much UHD Bluray player out there now :(
thetoad
Posts: 256
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:18 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by thetoad »

can one do it on any other dolby vision bluray player? if not, I'd make a guess that its a dolby restriction, not allowing dolby vision content to be viewed in manners that they dislike
box4m
Posts: 68
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:23 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by box4m »

flashback8 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:07 pm
sonysg wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am
sonysg wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:23 am Dear all,

I'm using OPPO 205 and Sony X950G

I have a problem when playing Dolby Vision disc or MP4 muxed Dolby Vision files

How could we enforced film to full screen(No Black bar) when play back DV contains? It said this operation is not permitted when I pressed "Zoom" on the Oppo's remote

I could do full screen easily on HDR10 but not in Dolby Vision format, only Full screen Dolby Vision contain could (i.e BumbleBee, Transformer 4) :( I wish I could to do that for every Dolby Vision titles to enhance the movie viewing experience

How to we bypass this restriction? it could because of the metadata of second layer(1920*1080) of Dolby Vision contains prevent this to be happened, because muxing Dolby Vision using MP4 container is possible now, I would like to save hard disk space and get rid of black bar whenever possible, Does MakeMKV allow or maximise the full screen properties when muxing in MP4 format?

Looking forward for your suggestion
I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.
This is interesting, what replacements do u mean btw?
GabryLiv
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:52 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by GabryLiv »

Hello
Can you explain how the mel or fel files are recognized?
what is the procedure to insert the dolby vision into the mp4?
Demux the hevc file and the audio with tsmuxer
After how do we proceed?
Thanks
flashback8
Posts: 48
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:20 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by flashback8 »

sonysg wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:14 pm
flashback8 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:07 pm
sonysg wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am

I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.
Do you have news or link for that claimed its underpowered? Oppo already stop the production of 203/205 unlikely they would fix this issue on these model, too bad not much UHD Bluray player out there now :(
It's buried somewhere in the Oppo-203/205 thread on the blu-ray.com forum. They talked about it sometime in 2018, I think.
flashback8
Posts: 48
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:20 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by flashback8 »

box4m wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:29 pm
flashback8 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:07 pm
sonysg wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am

I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.
This is interesting, what replacements do u mean btw?
Oppo would've come out with a newer player at some point. One of their execs is an A/V nut and pushed real hard for quality players. Alas, phones were too profitable, so Oppo ended up disbanding the A/V division (or greatly reducing it, perhaps) so that there would be more time and factory space dedicated to phones.
sonysg
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue May 26, 2020 5:10 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sonysg »

if anyone know a UHD Player that could do full zoom of Dolby Vision please let us know the model
Likely there would not be any player so far what I heard but still hoping its not restriction from Dolby Lab that prevent full screen to be happen :|
djbuddha
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:55 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by djbuddha »

jlpsvk wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:33 am so... I achieved this... with the help of mp4box :) i think, would be good enough. :)

1) demux with tsMuxer...
2) encode BL
3) mux BL_encode.hevc with EL.hevc with yousesope's tools with mode 2 to BL+RPU
4) mux only video to mp4 with mp4muxer 1.0.1
5) add audio, subs, chapters to MP4 with mp4box
So I followed these steps, and changed it a little, here are the results.

Demuxed the file
muxed the BL & EL using yousesope w/ mode 2
muxed the BL+RPU with all the other assets (subs and all the other audio) to .TS (using the tsMuxer nightly that you linked... thank you btw)

Here's what I found:

- My Apple TV 4K plays the file as Dolby Vision via Infuse. The Atmos track plays as 7.1 which is fine (as the Apple TV can't play Atmos from Infuse from the disc's audio file anyway).
- My nVidia Shield 2017 plays the file as HDR10 (plays fine) and Atmos plays back perfectly.
- All subs work.

So .... it looks like I got it right. Getting my hands on a new 2019 Shield Pro at some point. In THEORY this resulting .TS file should play both the Dolby Vision & Atmos ...

Am I getting this right?

I don't care if the container is MP4, MKV or TS .. for Dolby Vision titles they will get their own folder anyway given the way I organize... but this SHOULD be ok no?
shawnc22
Posts: 637
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:40 am

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 »

djbuddha wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:27 pm
jlpsvk wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:33 am so... I achieved this... with the help of mp4box :) i think, would be good enough. :)

1) demux with tsMuxer...
2) encode BL
3) mux BL_encode.hevc with EL.hevc with yousesope's tools with mode 2 to BL+RPU
4) mux only video to mp4 with mp4muxer 1.0.1
5) add audio, subs, chapters to MP4 with mp4box
So I followed these steps, and changed it a little, here are the results.

Demuxed the file
muxed the BL & EL using yousesope w/ mode 2
muxed the BL+RPU with all the other assets (subs and all the other audio) to .TS (using the tsMuxer nightly that you linked... thank you btw)

Here's what I found:

- My Apple TV 4K plays the file as Dolby Vision via Infuse. The Atmos track plays as 7.1 which is fine (as the Apple TV can't play Atmos from Infuse from the disc's audio file anyway).
- My nVidia Shield 2017 plays the file as HDR10 (plays fine) and Atmos plays back perfectly.
- All subs work.

So .... it looks like I got it right. Getting my hands on a new 2019 Shield Pro at some point. In THEORY this resulting .TS file should play both the Dolby Vision & Atmos ...

Am I getting this right?

I don't care if the container is MP4, MKV or TS .. for Dolby Vision titles they will get their own folder anyway given the way I organize... but this SHOULD be ok no?
When you get a 2019 Shield pro, hopefully the DV standard for MKV is set in place by then, and you can just go directly from disk to mkv with makemkv and be done. If not, the files you have already created will play fine, but they are missing the EL, so titles that have a full enhancement layer might not be shown in the way they were intended to.
djbuddha
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:55 pm

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by djbuddha »

shawnc22 wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:15 pm
djbuddha wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:27 pm
jlpsvk wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:33 am so... I achieved this... with the help of mp4box :) i think, would be good enough. :)

1) demux with tsMuxer...
2) encode BL
3) mux BL_encode.hevc with EL.hevc with yousesope's tools with mode 2 to BL+RPU
4) mux only video to mp4 with mp4muxer 1.0.1
5) add audio, subs, chapters to MP4 with mp4box
So I followed these steps, and changed it a little, here are the results.

Demuxed the file
muxed the BL & EL using yousesope w/ mode 2
muxed the BL+RPU with all the other assets (subs and all the other audio) to .TS (using the tsMuxer nightly that you linked... thank you btw)

Here's what I found:

- My Apple TV 4K plays the file as Dolby Vision via Infuse. The Atmos track plays as 7.1 which is fine (as the Apple TV can't play Atmos from Infuse from the disc's audio file anyway).
- My nVidia Shield 2017 plays the file as HDR10 (plays fine) and Atmos plays back perfectly.
- All subs work.

So .... it looks like I got it right. Getting my hands on a new 2019 Shield Pro at some point. In THEORY this resulting .TS file should play both the Dolby Vision & Atmos ...

Am I getting this right?

I don't care if the container is MP4, MKV or TS .. for Dolby Vision titles they will get their own folder anyway given the way I organize... but this SHOULD be ok no?
When you get a 2019 Shield pro, hopefully the DV standard for MKV is set in place by then, and you can just go directly from disk to mkv with makemkv and be done. If not, the files you have already created will play fine, but they are missing the EL, so titles that have a full enhancement layer might not be shown in the way they were intended to.
Wait, doesn't yousesope's script put the layer in the newly exported hevc file before remuxing it to TS?
Post Reply