if you wish for more info about my files i got a ton more Dolby Vision movies on my pc
Is this a licence issue?
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Thanks for that link. I've found that single layer DV plays okay in Sony Android TVs but as the article suggests they will not play dual layer remuxes.daddy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:27 pmI think the Sony dv support is the worst.Philips 804 is an android tv with a built-in Video player that can handle dual layer dv.http://4k.com/news/sony-explains-about-dolby-vision-problem-in-its-4k-hdr-tvs-partly-blames-others-23168/ wrote:Sony implemented a modification to Dolby Vision support by which most of the processing for playback of content with this kind of high dynamic range formatting is offloaded to the device from which it came from instead of being done inside the TV itself. Thus the need for complementary updates from streaming device makers. Why Sony chose this approach is still unknown but it could be because they wanted to make their Dolby Vision update as lean and easy to implement as possible.
This is surprising that nobody tried to backup this android application, to try it on another android device![]()
Yes that is correct its a licencing issue as LG opted for the Dolby Vision Dual Layer licence which Plex and Xplay both use the included media player that is built into LG's tvs iirc. Nvidia must have opted for the single layer only licence which frankly sucks as you can't playback the mp4 DV DL movies on the 2019 Shield as it will play as HDR10 only. What is sad is that the 2019 Shield has the raw power to playback all the DV DL movies and even Gemini Man Dolby Vision DL at 60fps.rosavanwinkle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:12 amWhat i don't seem too understand is why Plex allows me to play Dolby Vision movies via the plex app on the LG store but not via the plex app on my shield pro 2019.
if you wish for more info about my files i got a ton more Dolby Vision movies on my pc
Is this a licence issue?![]()
Thanks. Great work.
Gemini Man HDR10 plays fine at the correct 60 fps on LG C9 oled via external hdd. Only the Dolby Vision version runs at choppy framerate. I think mp4muxer is the culprit.scradion wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:51 pmI believe that I just confirmed that it has to be the LG Alpha 9 SoC not being able to playback HFR 60fps HDR10/Dolby Vision correctly. The Shield 2015/2017/2019 will playback the HDR10 60fps movie just fine over gigabit Ethernet. I can not completely rule out that it still could be that the 2 year old Dolby mp4muxer isn't handling 60fps DL DV correctly though but even using the DVDfab DV DL it still won't play on LG tvs without the stutter.
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Man I really wish I opted for the OLED model instead of 50PUS7504 which I just purchased.. I ordered Chinoppo to play my DV content since my TV couldn't handle any other files than DVDFab single-layers and it looks like they're not the real deal. I had no idea Philips OLED TV's can handle dual-layer DV files.. Thought that was just LG thing!daddy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:27 pmI think the Sony dv support is the worst.Philips 804 is an android tv with a built-in Video player that can handle dual layer dv.http://4k.com/news/sony-explains-about-dolby-vision-problem-in-its-4k-hdr-tvs-partly-blames-others-23168/ wrote:Sony implemented a modification to Dolby Vision support by which most of the processing for playback of content with this kind of high dynamic range formatting is offloaded to the device from which it came from instead of being done inside the TV itself. Thus the need for complementary updates from streaming device makers. Why Sony chose this approach is still unknown but it could be because they wanted to make their Dolby Vision update as lean and easy to implement as possible.
This is surprising that nobody tried to backup this android application, to try it on another android device![]()
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 amFrom my experience and some other's here, Gemini Man DV single layer does not have choppy playback because it is essentially hdr10 version which runs at correct 60 fps. It is Gemini Man DV dual layer that has choppy playback because it is true DV and somehow the remuxing process messes with the framerate or whatever.
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:05 pmGemini Man HDR10 plays fine at the correct 60 fps on LG C9 oled via external hdd. Only the Dolby Vision version runs at choppy framerate. I think mp4muxer is the culprit.scradion wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:51 pmI believe that I just confirmed that it has to be the LG Alpha 9 SoC not being able to playback HFR 60fps HDR10/Dolby Vision correctly. The Shield 2015/2017/2019 will playback the HDR10 60fps movie just fine over gigabit Ethernet. I can not completely rule out that it still could be that the 2 year old Dolby mp4muxer isn't handling 60fps DL DV correctly though but even using the DVDfab DV DL it still won't play on LG tvs without the stutter.
hey, where are we at again with the x700? iirc, bdmv / m2ts / iso / mkv all just play in hdr10 and only dual layer dv mp4's play in dolby vision, from both plex dlna server and usb hdd.. sound about right? do 24fps mp4s with hd-audio play ok?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34 pmgemini man 60fps dual layer + 5.1 AC3 play just fine with the Sony x700. I watched the whole movie without any issue... so no problems with the mp4muxer
When i add lossless audio then it starts stuttering.
yep, that's right. Single layer mp4 too is supported.
DV mp4 only works with lpcm 7.1 (or regular AC3/e-AC3 of course)
oh wow, that's quite the deal breaker. my TV is essentially no different then. strange why it won't read the hd-audio mp4box forces in. I could see maybe thd atmos having an issue but dts-hd ma should be fine :/RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:20 pmDV mp4 only works with lpcm 7.1 (or regular AC3/e-AC3 of course)
Are you saying that x700 plays dual layer dolby vision mp4s? From network share or usb?Grencola wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:35 amhey, where are we at again with the x700? iirc, bdmv / m2ts / iso / mkv all just play in hdr10 and only dual layer dv mp4's play in dolby vision, from both plex dlna server and usb hdd.. sound about right? do 24fps mp4s with hd-audio play ok?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34 pmgemini man 60fps dual layer + 5.1 AC3 play just fine with the Sony x700. I watched the whole movie without any issue... so no problems with the mp4muxer
When i add lossless audio then it starts stuttering.
Yes, from dlna media servers or the usb port. It also has dual hdmi out for if your AVR doesn't do 4k dv passthrough.
I don't know, here?