Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[DaMacFunkin]

Man I tried many ways but still couldn't make Gemini Man in dolby vision to run at the correct 60 fps. I suspect there is mismatch between the framerate of 2 video layers somehow since the hdr10 version runs perfectly fine at 60fps.

Hi, I have 2 set ups LG C9 and LG C7, none have problems playing back single layer Gemini man at 60fps via the internal Plex app over wired gigabit network, I have all motion processing disabled on both sets.

On my C7 I have a normal shield (2017) as Plex server and my DV files plugged into that via USB 3, I can then play them back via the built in Plex app.

On my C9 I have a new DV shield and my DV files plugged into that via a usb 3 drive, that the goes through a Denon 5.2.2 system, I can then playback via Plex on the shield or Plex on the C9 with no problems.

On my DVDfab single layer of Gemini Man I even made a 7.1 aac at quality 1.0 with neroaac codec and muxed that back in.

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[daddy]

On my C7 I have a normal shield (2017) as Plex server and my DV files plugged into that via USB 3, I can then play them back via the built in Plex app.

Is the Shield 2017 compatible with Dolby Vision ??

[deadchip12]

Man I tried many ways but still couldn't make Gemini Man in dolby vision to run at the correct 60 fps. I suspect there is mismatch between the framerate of 2 video layers somehow since the hdr10 version runs perfectly fine at 60fps.

Hi, I have 2 set ups LG C9 and LG C7, none have problems playing back single layer Gemini man at 60fps via the internal Plex app over wired gigabit network, I have all motion processing disabled on both sets.

On my C7 I have a normal shield (2017) as Plex server and my DV files plugged into that via USB 3, I can then play them back via the built in Plex app.

On my C9 I have a new DV shield and my DV files plugged into that via a usb 3 drive, that the goes through a Denon 5.2.2 system, I can then playback via Plex on the shield or Plex on the C9 with no problems.

On my DVDfab single layer of Gemini Man I even made a 7.1 aac at quality 1.0 with neroaac codec and muxed that back in.436CABEC-0FD9-4933-847B-CEF2D33D8096.jpeg

Is there a way to make it work for double layer? I don’t really want to try making a single layer because some people say it is questionable whether the dolby vision of that is real or simply hdr10 with false dolby flag.

[jesper1994]

Do we need m2ts file (from the original bluray disc) to make this dolby vision remux? Or does mkv file (from the remux version of the original bluray disc) suffice?

depends. if you want a single layer mp4, dvdfab needs to use the m2ts. my dual-layer mp4 tool can use both. I've made many from mkv and they play fine, however I have read some users (making far more than me) encountered the odd problem vs the always working m2ts.

Could you also select dts audio with your tool? Would be awesome, now it takes lots of time for me to remux all the files.

[daddy]

Is there a way to make it work for double layer?

I think the Gemini man mp4 DL @60fps people made with mp4muxer are working.
The problem is to play it without stutter. Perhaps on a M9702 . (if someone can confirm...)

now it takes lots of time for me to remux all the files

usually it takes me 1h30 to make a 120 min video file (Core i7-2600K @4.4ghz & SSD 500Gb)
- demux m2ts with ffmpeg => 20 min
- mux dual layer DV with mp4muxer => 40 min (if ac3 or ec3 you can add here and finish here)
- add of a dts audio => 20 min

[Grencola]

Could you also select dts audio with your tool? Would be awesome, now it takes lots of time for me to remux all the files.

I suppose I could. it would require quite a bit of coding though since not all movies have dts sound. I'd have to write a sound detection script: it would output the video's mediainfo to a txt file, then search that txt for dts-hd or true-hd and run a dts/dd core-extraction script accordingly (or give a choice). that way if the movie has dts-hd ma it will give you dts 1509kbps and if it has true-hd it will give you 640kbps ac3.. there's gotta be way smarter coders on here than me though who could crank that out in no time, if anyone's up for it then by all means

[deadchip12]

Is there a way to make it work for double layer?

I think the Gemini man mp4 DL @60fps people made with mp4muxer are working.
The problem is to play it without stutter. Perhaps on a M9702 . (if someone can confirm...)

Yes Gemini man dolby vision mp4 dual layer made with mp4muxer works but doesn't run at 60fps but a choppy framerate. I play it via usb. Hdr10 version runs fine. Maybe people who have more expertise here can look at the tool and figure out some solution?

[jesper1994]

Could you also select dts audio with your tool? Would be awesome, now it takes lots of time for me to remux all the files.

I suppose I could. it would require quite a bit of coding though since not all movies have dts sound. I'd have to write a sound detection script: it would output the video's mediainfo to a txt file, then search that txt for dts-hd or true-hd and run a dts/dd core-extraction script accordingly (or give a choice). that way if the movie has dts-hd ma it will give you dts 1509kbps and if it has true-hd it will give you 640kbps ac3.. there's gotta be way smarter coders on here than me though who could crank that out in no time, if anyone's up for it then by all means

If you let me select the audio track, it would already be a huge improvement for me!

[DaMacFunkin]

On my C7 I have a normal shield (2017) as Plex server and my DV files plugged into that via USB 3, I can then play them back via the built in Plex app.

Is the Shield 2017 compatible with Dolby Vision ??

No, I mean the built in Plex app on the C7, the 2017 shield is just acting as server.

[DaMacFunkin]

Man I tried many ways but still couldn't make Gemini Man in dolby vision to run at the correct 60 fps. I suspect there is mismatch between the framerate of 2 video layers somehow since the hdr10 version runs perfectly fine at 60fps.

Hi, I have 2 set ups LG C9 and LG C7, none have problems playing back single layer Gemini man at 60fps via the internal Plex app over wired gigabit network, I have all motion processing disabled on both sets.

On my C7 I have a normal shield (2017) as Plex server and my DV files plugged into that via USB 3, I can then play them back via the built in Plex app.

On my C9 I have a new DV shield and my DV files plugged into that via a usb 3 drive, that the goes through a Denon 5.2.2 system, I can then playback via Plex on the shield or Plex on the C9 with no problems.

On my DVDfab single layer of Gemini Man I even made a 7.1 aac at quality 1.0 with neroaac codec and muxed that back in.436CABEC-0FD9-4933-847B-CEF2D33D8096.jpeg

Is there a way to make it work for double layer? I don’t really want to try making a single layer because some people say it is questionable whether the dolby vision of that is real or simply hdr10 with false dolby flag.

Yes, heard this, all I can say is Single layer DV of a movie DOES look better on the same setup than the HDR10, and Dual layer DV doesn’t look better than single layer DV.

Most professional TV calibrators will not calibrate your TV to reference values, they will all say what looks good to the eye is more relevant than what is technically correct, just remember that.

[DaMacFunkin]

P.s. I could make a dual layer back up of Gemini Man, but it’s rubbish, there is nothing I like about, story, close up filming, lack of atmosphere or the high frame rate.

[Grencola]

Yes, heard this, all I can say is Single layer DV of a movie DOES look better on the same setup than the HDR10, and Dual layer DV doesn’t look better than single layer DV.

when people used a luxometer and other various tools to measure movie scenes nits of single-layer dv mp4 vs their regular hdr10 counterpart, NO increase in brightness was detected. also they found the colorspace to be way off from where it should be. however when measuring dual-layer dv mp4s there was a much higher increase of nits in all specular highlights, that matched exactly what the uhd-bd disc brightness was and the colorspace was perfect. basically dvdfab inserts a false flag so your TV says dv, and then your brain goes ooh yay dolby vision! and the placebo effect kicks in..

[mulucy]

Yes, heard this, all I can say is Single layer DV of a movie DOES look better on the same setup than the HDR10, and Dual layer DV doesn’t look better than single layer DV.

when people used a luxometer and other various tools to measure movie scenes nits of single-layer dv mp4 vs their regular hdr10 counterpart, NO increase in brightness was detected. however when measuring dual-layer dv mp4s there was a much higher increase of nits in all specular highlights, that matched exactly what the uhd-bd disc brightness was. basically dvdfab inserts a false flag so your TV says dv, and then your brain goes ooh boy dolby vision! and the placebo effect kicks in..

So, it's confirmed that at this stage DVDFab made single layer DV is basically a fake? Are you sure?

[Grencola]

So, it's confirmed that at this stage DVDFab made single layer DV is basically a fake? Are you sure?

Since I haven't done any of the testing myself, I can't be 100% sure, no. but far smarter people than me have tested it multiple times in multiple ways and they all seem to reach a similar conclusion. this is also why I have been so hesitant to make a tool for easy single-layer mp4s. I don't want to perpetuate any pseudo tech. I'll stick with true dual layer, and my next update should allow for hd-audio + atmos in the mp4s it creates.

[mulucy]

So, it's confirmed that at this stage DVDFab made single layer DV is basically a fake? Are you sure?

Since I haven't done any of the testing myself, I can't be 100% sure, no. but far smarter people than me have tested it multiple times in multiple ways and they all seem to reach a similar conclusion. this is also why I have been so hesitant to make a tool for easy single-layer mp4s. I don't want to perpetuate any pseudo tech. I'll stick with true dual layer, and my next update should allow for hd-audio + atmos in the mp4s it creates.

It makes sense. Why Gemini Man, made using the DVDFab DV Single layer, has a choppy playback and it requires a good HDMI cable, whereas the same movie in HDR10 works smooth? I am not trying to argue with the fact, to be honest. Genuinely curious