Problematic HD-DVDs

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planet1
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HD-DVDs still play in 2019

Post by planet1 »

ranger671 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:45 pm
I have a number of HD-DVD's .., what drive are you using to read these discs into your system ...?

The cheapest and most fuss-free solution would be a Xbox 360 HD-DVD addon drive, which you can connect via USB 2.0 to your PC.

AFAIK most if not all the internal HD-DVD ROM alternatives featured a PATA connector, for which you need a SATA male to IDE female adapter nowadays.

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Data_Dan
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Data_Dan »

ranger671 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:45 pm
I have a number of HD-DVD's that I would like to salvage. If you don't mind, what drive are you using to read these discs into your system and how are you making the connection(sata, usb, etc.)?
I use an LG GGC-H20L SuperMulti internal SATA drive. It's very rare nowadays but there is a used one on Ebay for $69.95 US
DirtyCajunRice
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by DirtyCajunRice »

1) American Me
2) Universal Studios Home Entertainment
3) .EVO files? never even seen that before... mediainfo says they are VC-1
4) DD+ 5.1 / DD+ 2.0
5) Backup option grayed out. Can only convert to mkv
6) DEBUG: Code 3221225486 at /#i^dV2 QD51N^S+0^g8:29394390
r0d3nt
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by r0d3nt »

1) 300
2) Warner Home Video
3) 1080p/VC-1
4) DDPlus 5.1
5) Fails almost immediately when trying to backup. I can rip some individual tracks, not the main track however as it encounters media errors after about 15 minutes. I was able to build a ddrescue image of the hddvd, but I'm unable to pair it with a discatt.dat as the backup immediately fails and never generates one.
6) Debug log

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# makemkvcon --debug --noscan --directio=false backup disc:1 /root/rip/dme
Debug log started at Fri Oct 25 00:06:59 2019 , written by MakeMKV v1.14.3 linux(x64-release)
Using 262272KB for read cache.
001005:0000 MakeMKV v1.14.3 linux(x64-release) started
001004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as /root/MakeMKV_log.txt
005072:0000 Backing up disc into folder "/root/rip/dme"
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at UB`Z)HS1-zNT6UNY:213142243
No SDF v042: TOSHIBA_DVD/HD__X807616_MC08_692W030969
DEBUG: Code 0 at S(k|~QG=Z=`9'(=YGOE:213138793
DAFD=PAAAADAAAAFABDQEEAAABAQ==
DCE=8p7WKsjXFIlQZZ43HBgSNWN+7AXNparV6BoUV+uPWwx1V5R9PYqSzi3qRJcJp9NE/cvZSZYmWAvM/V42bG/jWL2uZ3K1gNNY1JSPgZp414tjl7Bx4yNNGwbXVpTnlJ0gKt89jzDboEbNlEDS/e9BMeyqQpNJZH6UeQ==
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at S(k|~QG=Z=`9'(=YGOE:121270766
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at S(k|~QG=Z=`9'(=YGOE:29403360
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at &Y}.>L,<f[)%Q5Ol,mqv:121264855
005069:0080 Backup failed
005080:0204 Backup failed.
Application exited at Fri Oct 25 00:07:03 2019
johnsmith101
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by johnsmith101 »

Any idea why I can't get 5.1 Audio on my HD-DVD rips? Blu-Ray is working just fine.

I get audio, just not 5.1. So far I've tried:

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planet1
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Problematic HD-DVDs - HOT ROD

Post by planet1 »

1) HOT ROD
2) Paramount
3) MPEG4-AVC
4) DolbyTrueHD + DolbyDigitalPlus
5) MakeMKV takes a long time to open the disc, misses the main movie and fails to rip the rest
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6) Disc is readable and rips fine with DumpHD

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8154da76b9ac93be236f2da59b7c3d0c *HVDVD_TS\ANCESTORS.EVO
6c148f94e7971ca9bdf4e70b6a1d3702 *HVDVD_TS\ANCESTORS.MAP
19f7c286addb59c95d0fe3adccb4e793 *HVDVD_TS\BLACK.EVO
4ccd6a6d655aa9a2e5c67e68dca1f3ba *HVDVD_TS\BLACK.MAP
69e69135f9aace08a765fef227414fae *HVDVD_TS\DEL10_TOYS.EVO
165a484413825fd9ef67903e041f3a25 *HVDVD_TS\DEL10_TOYS.MAP
0206f071517b115032bf0d29b446cdad *HVDVD_TS\DEL11_DOUBLEDATE.EVO
aaad76390f7449d41b0c6b38656476c3 *HVDVD_TS\DEL11_DOUBLEDATE.MAP
353a5b61a413320be7090c6790e9e6af *HVDVD_TS\DEL12_SCREENING.EVO
b875828c7e4d05853bce6304106591b9 *HVDVD_TS\DEL12_SCREENING.MAP
f476ae7981b68a8a0bc757db96a1fbee *HVDVD_TS\DEL13_GOTH.EVO
26f83326bd3cc5394e2ee4cd7cc1486c *HVDVD_TS\DEL13_GOTH.MAP
ff290bac2c146ef5f0052c179af99f8c *HVDVD_TS\DEL14_HITSLADY.EVO
6601052b3415fd7fd97822db5afcbe1a *HVDVD_TS\DEL14_HITSLADY.MAP
ff3978bfcf99302260a7d0c518faccd5 *HVDVD_TS\DEL15_BARRYPASTERNACK.EVO
99bacf9db3f3f551acdb2eb5d35153f1 *HVDVD_TS\DEL15_BARRYPASTERNACK.MAP
b54712c1c90311b9eb3c1ca34225cae1 *HVDVD_TS\DEL16_KEVINSINGS.EVO
2f62a40193d0ad8632588da54d7c02cd *HVDVD_TS\DEL16_KEVINSINGS.MAP
c266f397a26fcc24056160ff004136ae *HVDVD_TS\DEL1_OPENINGCREDITS.EVO
71fb726edf4a134dda2e55fc2f10716e *HVDVD_TS\DEL1_OPENINGCREDITS.MAP
0b802dbc8ddb1d82a9556e160667edb2 *HVDVD_TS\DEL2_SHUTDOOR.EVO
80603e31b26bea39016de7c0b4f75417 *HVDVD_TS\DEL2_SHUTDOOR.MAP
dd03f1ff2e51fecde87da06952ac5ce3 *HVDVD_TS\DEL3_DENISE.EVO
cd9688b0b681ba4188862f9e8433faaf *HVDVD_TS\DEL3_DENISE.MAP
5d471985854e3ffd3c03c0247643a587 *HVDVD_TS\DEL4_LAMPS.EVO
907460df7319e925e758e3f2b00ac376 *HVDVD_TS\DEL4_LAMPS.MAP
1d0f93d7f62b8f225b4188fdfa6b2442 *HVDVD_TS\DEL5_RICOHI5.EVO
f872d6901371f9081230e70902755ade *HVDVD_TS\DEL5_RICOHI5.MAP
273dc5e764e077f76eca8b9a8cb7e1e9 *HVDVD_TS\DEL6_CONVERSE.EVO
45ecdb6b7b094930da25ac6661c0e904 *HVDVD_TS\DEL6_CONVERSE.MAP
26a323d466a6c1279849ab0141149ef5 *HVDVD_TS\DEL7_GARAGETALK2.EVO
6d324878e1530865601ca2530260fa60 *HVDVD_TS\DEL7_GARAGETALK2.MAP
d304fdb7660b8d36112394f13b3b0155 *HVDVD_TS\DEL8_SHOTGUN.EVO
dddb5b13014908d156243e75b5e6da2e *HVDVD_TS\DEL8_SHOTGUN.MAP
a52dc1e06f03c1ec0a09c0728d7184c7 *HVDVD_TS\DEL9_DINNER.EVO
e3dfa9c2d90c5b1d29be7dec092acf13 *HVDVD_TS\DEL9_DINNER.MAP
182ae9e5aea65c9e61d1a128ee891902 *HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1.EVO
fe4427b6e3bf9f9b0f86f6339eee2d7f *HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1.MAP
47c5ad3c05d3bcd7d384ce51d6c22fc1 *HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_2.EVO
bbe137d080ff042d64dbdc8c078ba1eb *HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_2.MAP
cb1fe3727c3a1adae84063f2305fcab3 *HVDVD_TS\HVA00001.VTI
9d9f5dc5a1b74dc21b61c587191d9a49 *HVDVD_TS\KARAOKE_EASTEREGG.EVO
12682f0630e6552798f9d44740073e7d *HVDVD_TS\KARAOKE_EASTEREGG.MAP
e385b5f47e872caf59390dcbd56006c9 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_DONUT.EVO
16ce452a3f325856b4e659e6d4b97cc7 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_DONUT.MAP
57d29f508e795c81ac02627016112054 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_JETSKI.EVO
dfa25fb31ef86ca0e6c4bef81c73a835 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_JETSKI.MAP
c23c54347c713f26d2141f3f5607bd40 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_REMEMBER.EVO
0562d87651423dc3ae047128e3ebb0ee *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_REMEMBER.MAP
437d7918f883518f012fdf41aff8c962 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_STUNTMAN.EVO
5f4d72372ced13dfb4e06aaf8232128d *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_STUNTMAN.MAP
e6e59b6cd630192c4c0d805e8ee50032 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR1.EVO
9496356f4698057d7b9324d42f35f1da *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR1.MAP
f4aadd49e1a85dee2287a39e4177d841 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR2.EVO
c3d61b852d95547660ca01764c9062f9 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR2.MAP
0abbe8ad51768d55c35bd9b071ce9c53 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR3.EVO
58ea3324a1b084c1ad2261dad81ab55b *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR3.MAP
8389a249f6acc31f1f61a2f7fa279648 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR4.EVO
a2dc737ad28dbf5e61063b6a18680709 *HVDVD_TS\KEVINVIDEO_TR4.MAP
56208a8e506775dc02e4ee0c4324dc65 *HVDVD_TS\MAINMENU.EVO
e8b161e3e31eefa84db7299bfd9a9f95 *HVDVD_TS\MAINMENU.MAP
af7b9a987a36bb9d321be04025881828 *HVDVD_TS\ORCHESTRA.EVO
3e12d57dc63fe36efcf703ab59394a65 *HVDVD_TS\ORCHESTRA.MAP
6f8dd12576111d050d13b8ef1d2a1756 *HVDVD_TS\OUTTAKES.EVO
5e34514cbe6a77cb192a9abdd903c260 *HVDVD_TS\OUTTAKES.MAP
81547748397e520d21dee25873b27c50 *HVDVD_TS\PARALOGO.EVO
e173a27f357c4550e96fd5ef13248b4d *HVDVD_TS\PARALOGO.MAP
4571c3151e8bdb75c2e141b818419e76 *HVDVD_TS\PUNCH_DANCE.EVO
a16160d2fb8ad2827b46b44d92bf6424 *HVDVD_TS\PUNCH_DANCE.MAP
ebf1d69a1d1f4cae74633586156aafdd *HVDVD_TS\THEATRICAL_TRAILER.EVO
e984d8baf9e2198f2f2632c2d051f72a *HVDVD_TS\THEATRICAL_TRAILER.MAP
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Firekill
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Firekill »

I’ve ripped a few hd DVDs but only 2 are playing correctly through Plex , the elephant man plays but audio is out of sync and plays like in slow motion. Is this to do with the FPS and pull down flags ? I’ve read handbrake removes them is this correct?
planet1
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salvage HD-DVD content

Post by planet1 »

As salvaging ones HD-DVDs becomes a more pressing concern by each passing month, here are a two German HD-DVDs which refuse to open in MakeMKV (even when decrypted with dumphd).
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001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at R[Yx-6#%vhZ3@:213130007
005010:0000 Failed to open disc
@mikeadmin

Will the "HVA00001.VTI" from each "HVDVD_TS" directory do, or do you need more files?
Template
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Template »

I use an LG GGC-H20L SuperMulti internal SATA drive. It's very rare nowadays but there is a used one on Ebay
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Wolf359
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Wolf359 »

I didn't see a better place to put this so, here is my necropost. My HD DVD drive has been happily ripping discs using AnyDVD (blasphemy). But my drive (I forget the model no.) won't even recognize three HD DVD's I have from a box set: Blade Runner-5 Disc Special Edition. Has anybody found a way to rip the three HD DVDs in that set?
Billycar11
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Billycar11 »

Clean the discs
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
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Wolf359
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by Wolf359 »

Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:17 am
Clean the discs
Thanks yes have tried that.
SamuriHL
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by SamuriHL »

I'll post this here, as well for others. HD DVD has not aged well in terms of staying rippable. I just ripped my collection of them a few weeks ago and ran into a similar problem of having a disc I couldn't read. Given the age of these discs at this point I truly think some of them have just gone bad. Cleaning made no difference for me, either.

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nightstalkerpoet
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by nightstalkerpoet »

Warner discs are nearly all prone to disc rot and are likely unrippable.

Does anyone know what hd-dvd bug fixes were implemented in September?
dcoke22
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Re: Problematic HD-DVDs

Post by dcoke22 »

nightstalkerpoet wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:51 am
Warner discs are nearly all prone to disc rot and are likely unrippable.

Does anyone know what hd-dvd bug fixes were implemented in September?
MakeMKV 1.17.3 not opening any HD DVD discs

HD-DVD support was more or less completely broken. The fix restored it working again.
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