PSA: New Archgon UHD drives do not allow flashing

[Xehelios]

I bought the drive not knowing that the new version does not allow flashing. Is there any hope? Would changing the enclosure help (I'm guessing, given current discussions), but if yes, what should I get? Thanks a lot for your help in this.

removing it from the case will make it flashable and usable

Thank you so much for your answer. My apologies for being dense. I just want to confirm that I can effectively get something like the BENFEI SATA to USB 3.0 Cable and flash the drive.

Also, would you have experience taking it apart? Are the four screws under the rubber pads, or am I missing something?

[Billycar11]

I bought the drive not knowing that the new version does not allow flashing. Is there any hope? Would changing the enclosure help (I'm guessing, given current discussions), but if yes, what should I get? Thanks a lot for your help in this.

removing it from the case will make it flashable and usable

Thank you so much for your answer. My apologies for being dense. I just want to confirm that I can effectively get something like the BENFEI SATA to USB 3.0 Cable and flash the drive.

Also, would you have experience taking it apart? Are the four screws under the rubber pads, or am I missing something?

yeah screws are under the feet
you will also need this https://www.amazon.com/ChenYang-slimlin ... B00S6H54PK

[james702283]

I have the old one but I think it is failing, Can I use the new version in the old chasis and flash it?

[larhaus]

I have the old one but I think it is failing, Can I use the new version in the old chasis and flash it?

If you mean the drive in the old enclosure is failing then you don't have to buy the new version. Just shuck a drive from any enclosure and then stick it in the old enclosure if you want to keep the old enclosure. If you mean the old enclosure is failing and you're certain it's the old enclosure and not the drive itself, and you want to buy the new version of the Archgon product, then the new one won't work for flashing, hence this PSA.

[james702283]

I have the old one but I think it is failing, Can I use the new version in the old chasis and flash it?

If you mean the drive in the old enclosure is failing then you don't have to buy the new version. Just shuck a drive from any enclosure and then stick it in the old enclosure if you want to keep the old enclosure. If you mean the old enclosure is failing and you're certain it's the old enclosure and not the drive itself, and you want to buy the new version of the Archgon product, then the new one won't work for flashing, hence this PSA.

Why would you think the enclosure is failing or that I was asking that?
I asked if the drive in the old style enclosure is failing and I buy the new archgon can I just put it in the old enclosure since the new enclosure is what prevents it from flashing. Doesn't matter now because I bought a different drive.

[larhaus]

I have the old one but I think it is failing, Can I use the new version in the old chasis and flash it?

If you mean the drive in the old enclosure is failing then you don't have to buy the new version. Just shuck a drive from any enclosure and then stick it in the old enclosure if you want to keep the old enclosure. If you mean the old enclosure is failing and you're certain it's the old enclosure and not the drive itself, and you want to buy the new version of the Archgon product, then the new one won't work for flashing, hence this PSA.

Why would you think the enclosure is failing or that I was asking that?
I asked if the drive in the old style enclosure is failing and I buy the new archgon can I just put it in the old enclosure since the new enclosure is what prevents it from flashing. Doesn't matter now because I bought a different drive.

Re-read what you wrote.

You wrote "I have the old one." What is "one"? It wasn't clear what you meant by "one" because "one" is composed of two parts that can fail independently of each other. The drive could fail or the electronics in the enclosure could fail.

Since you weren't clear about what "one" was, and because that question could be interpreted differently, I covered all 4 combinations, especially for the benefit of others who may have had the same question.

Next time, either be clearer when you ask questions, or don't ask questions at all if you're going to be snarky to someone who replies and tries to help you when you don't completely know what you're talking about.

[james702283]

If you mean the drive in the old enclosure is failing then you don't have to buy the new version. Just shuck a drive from any enclosure and then stick it in the old enclosure if you want to keep the old enclosure. If you mean the old enclosure is failing and you're certain it's the old enclosure and not the drive itself, and you want to buy the new version of the Archgon product, then the new one won't work for flashing, hence this PSA.

Why would you think the enclosure is failing or that I was asking that?
I asked if the drive in the old style enclosure is failing and I buy the new archgon can I just put it in the old enclosure since the new enclosure is what prevents it from flashing. Doesn't matter now because I bought a different drive.

Re-read what you wrote.

You wrote "I have the old one." What is "one"? It wasn't clear what you meant by "one" because "one" is composed of two parts that can fail independently of each other. The drive could fail or the electronics in the enclosure could fail.

Since you weren't clear about what "one" was, and because that question could be interpreted differently, I covered all 4 combinations, especially for the benefit of others who may have had the same question.

Next time, either be clearer when you ask questions, or don't ask questions at all if you're going to be snarky to someone who replies and tries to help you when you don't completely know what you're talking about.

I simply asked why you would assume that it was the enclosure that was failing. I literally mentiioned wanting to use the old enclosure in my initial question. That isn't beng snarky if you think it is you need to touch grass.

The only person who made this personal was you. Could I have been clearer, yes.

But Again, the discussion is currently on the model being updated to a "new" version with the only change being the enclosure preventing the flashing. So the "new one" meant exactly that. Yes, enclosures fail but it's typically the drive itself. It was pretty obvious that was what I was referring to.

Also, since you want to be petty and personal for no reason, I am plenty knowledgeable, I just didn't think I needed to state the obvious which was already being discussed. Your response didn't even answer your own hypothetical. "Just shuck a drive from any enclosure and then stick it in the old enclosure if you want to keep the old enclosure", that's not an answer when I was stating my drive was dying. Have the day you deserve bud!

[roberdjp]

Once the firmware in the drive is flashed, will it work if you return it to the enclosure?

It seems like it's essentially impossible to actually get any of the recommended internal drives these days. I bought one of the ASUS BW-16D1HT's, and it showed up with platform MT 1939 instead of 1959, so I'm returning it (it took 4 weeks to get here, so that's a real bummer). I bought one of the Archgons a while back, removed it from the enclosure, flashed it and it worked for a couple days (as a bare drive sitting on my desk) until my stupid cat knocked it on the floor and it caused some persistent mechanical failure

I'm okay with buying another one if there are no readily available better options. Should I buy some other slimline enclosure that will work or will the included enclosure work once the drive is flashed?

[larhaus]

Once the firmware in the drive is flashed, will it work if you return it to the enclosure?

It seems like it's essentially impossible to actually get any of the recommended internal drives these days. I bought one of the ASUS BW-16D1HT's, and it showed up with platform MT 1939 instead of 1959, so I'm returning it (it took 4 weeks to get here, so that's a real bummer). I bought one of the Archgons a while back, removed it from the enclosure, flashed it and it worked for a couple days (as a bare drive sitting on my desk) until my stupid cat knocked it on the floor and it caused some persistent mechanical failure

I'm okay with buying another one if there are no readily available better options. Should I buy some other slimline enclosure that will work or will the included enclosure work once the drive is flashed?

The workaround is to shuck the drive out of the Archgon enclosure and install the drive into either another enclosure that has a SATA-to-USB controller chip that allows flashing, or into a laptop with a slimline drive bay if you have one, and use that to flash the drive. Once flashed, you can reinstall the drive into the Archgon enclosure, and it should work fine.