Create ISO Backups

[g0ren]

Hello, I like to make full disc backups of all my Blu-rays and DVD's. MakeMKV makes DVD's into ISO files, but Blu-ray's into BDMV folders, which I then have to use something like Keka to turn into an ISO file. ISO's are a bit more convenient for my use and I'd like to skip the conversion step, so I'm wondering if there's a setting in MakeMKV to make Blu-ray's into ISO's directly? I couldn't find anything poking around in the settings.

[dcoke22]

You're correct. ISOs for DVDs and BDMV folders for blu-rays and UHDs. There's no setting to let MakeMKV create ISOs for blu-rays; you have to use another program to convert.

[g0ren]

Is there a way to request the feature for a possible future version, or have the devs already explained why they won't implement it?

[dcoke22]

Posting on the forum is probably the best way to request the feature be added. If Mike has explained himself on this topic, I'm not aware of it (but there are a lot of posts on this forum that I've never read).

[MakeIt-EASY]

What software is everybody using to make ISO then?

[dcoke22]

What software is everybody using to make ISO then?

I seem to recall Imgburn being recommended.

[Coopervid]

What software is everybody using to make ISO then?

I seem to recall Imgburn being recommended.

It's MacOS. And people need to ask Google.

[dcoke22]

The hard part about creating ISOs of blu-rays on macOS is that macOS does not natively support version of filesystem used on blu-rays, UDF.

As Steve Jobs once famously said, blu-ray is a bag of hurt. 15 years later and macOS natively still can't play a blu-ray disc.

[Coopervid]

The hard part about creating ISOs of blu-rays on macOS is that macOS does not natively support version of filesystem used on blu-rays, UDF.

As Steve Jobs once famously said, blu-ray is a bag of hurt. 15 years later and macOS natively still can't play a blu-ray disc.

Ouch! I didn't know that.

[tokeL]

The hard part about creating ISOs of blu-rays on macOS is that macOS does not natively support version of filesystem used on blu-rays, UDF.

As Steve Jobs once famously said, blu-ray is a bag of hurt. 15 years later and macOS natively still can't play a blu-ray disc.

Wrong, macOS has supported UDF 2.50 from 10.5 (2007).
How do you think DVDfab can rip bd's in macOS?

Jobs didn't want to pay for bd's licenses. And incorporate some outsiders encryption to his "own" OS.
And he wanted people to buy their movies from iTunes.
I'm glad I have my movies in bd.

Apple encouraged "rip, mix & burn" culture to the point when they realized that they make better profits from iTunes. And suddenly ODD was old fashion and "bag of hurt".

My main question is:

Why Imgburn is better than the alternative?
What is its advantages?

[dcoke22]

Wrong, macOS has supported UDF 2.50 from 10.5 (2007).

What native macOS tool or utility can create UDF 2.5 ISOs?

[Coopervid]

And what tool on MacOS can burn BD multi-layer with spare area?

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185539&page=19

[tokeL]

Wrong, macOS has supported UDF 2.50 from 10.5 (2007).

What native macOS tool or utility can create UDF 2.5 ISOs?

I'm not sure.
I look into this once or twice a year for few days, now several years like that, and never got the whole picture of this.
Maybe I need to start making notes about this and try to make a good post about this.
What would be the best forum for this? Here?

Anyway, OS support for filesystem is different than what tools are available for them.
I don't remember were I got this:
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hdiutil makehybrid -iso -joliet -udf -udf_version 2.5 -o output_filename.iso filename.cdr

Which reminds me that I should always put the source of info with the info.

But it seems, that with hdiutil, you can define UDF version, IF you make a hybrid disc.
I do not know, will stand-alone bd-player play a disc, which is burned from hybrid ISO.

Right now I'm trying to remember how I ripped a bd movie in summer with my old windows laptop.
Maybe it was #1 Decrypt with makemkv and #2 create image with Imgburn...?
(Since I do this so rarely and my memory is not getting better, this time I will make some notes...)

Because I now can't get wine-ImgBurn to get access to bd-drive with mac.
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[tokeL]

And in every case, if the wizards of makemkv mac version would incorporate a function which would make straight identical ISO from a physical disc in the drive, that would be A HUGE benefit for Mac users like me (using mac every day and taking that old windows hardware from the closet twice a year).

[tokeL]

I'll just keep writing here, even I just tested few things in windows.

First, when you open a disk with MakeMKV, you remove the encryption, so it's easy to playback with VLC.
(No need for this hassel any more: https://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/ , right?)
Same thing in windows side with Xreveal.

With encryption removed, you'd imagine that ImgBurn could make an ISO image when just pointed the bd-drive's drive letter or the folders there.
But no, it does not work.

So, I guess the most straightforward steps are
1. Backup with MakeMKV
2. From resulting folder, make ISO with ImgBurn.

I'm still a bit uncertain what the right image settings on ImgBurn should be for bd.
If they would be right in ImgBurn, could it read the files traight from the bd-disk, so "backupping" with MakeMKV could be skipped?
I can't remember what settings I used last time in August.
This time plain UDF2.5, no additional or hybrids and "Data Type" as "MODE1".
I do not know how it differs from MODE2 or does it matter.
Only ticked box is Recursive Subdirectories.

Next: Same thing with mac and Wined ImgBurn.
F**k, can't add the pictures here.



EDIT: seems to be that this can be done "windows free". Wined ImgBurn makes on ISO that at least VLC will play the image.

Amazingly I just noticed that other movie, which I skipped the "backupping" works... weird...