confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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kapqa
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confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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Hello ,

have recevied an 3d bluray and would like to backkup the Disc for later viewing over Network Stream.

Makemkev is recognizing the disc, however it proposes a quite confusing options if i might say so,


according to preliminary finding, the disc

5 titles a ca. 42,1 GB
and makemkv proposes to rip all 5 of them, however if i "enlarge" one title by clicking upon it, it proposes (so it seems) to rip only the Audio section, and Video is not checkmarked;

is this by design'?
also, titles 3,4,5 seem to have the same content as title 1.

thank you

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Ezatoka
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Re: confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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kapqa wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 6:01 pm
and makemkv proposes to rip all 5 of them, however if i "enlarge" one title by clicking upon it, it proposes (so it seems) to rip only the Audio section, and Video is not checkmarked;
This is not correct. The video part is always ripped. you just cannot see or remove the checkmark for it. But in the case of a 3D disc, the MVC part is the "second eye" so to speak. Without that, there would be no 3D.
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Re: confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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this is admittedly quite confusing,

now i have about 5 mkv of about 33, GB size, instead of 42 as proposed initially.
do i need to join those into 1 file or how is this 3d achieved?
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to add tp to the confusion,
there is also a "non-3d" bluray disc oncluded in the package,

and also there the makemkv is proposing 5 files, but all seem to have exactly the same structure, i mean same video file and subtitle options,
they seem only differ marginally in "name of source file > 00800.mpls > 00801.mpls > 00802.mpls etc." and in "map segment > 810,811 > 812,811 > 813,811 etc."
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kapqa
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Re: confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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there is however, another file in the non-3d-bluray, which differs, and has another source-file-type altogether ("m2ts" instead of "mpls")
is this the proper on that should be "ripped"?

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Re: confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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Like Ezatoka already mentioned, the unselected Video on the 3D Blu-ray is the stereo part for the second eye. If you want to have the video in 3D format you need to check it, otherwise only a normal 2D version is ripped.
If you don't care about 3D and a non 3D Blu-ray is included, you can also simply rip it from the 2D disc.

Regarding the different versions on the disc (different segment maps), I assume that 810, 812, 813 etc. is the typical Star Wars opening sequence with the text scroll in different languages (English, Italian, Spanish, Catalan, ... according to the audio tracks), and 811 is the movie without the opening sequence.
Since you already ripped all versions, just test play it and see what's the difference.

The size in MakeMKV is only estimated. De-/selecting different tracks can change the size of the resulting mkv file.
And Matroska supports compression. So even if you rip every track, the resulting file can still be smaller.


If you want to have all language variants and don't care about disc space, you could keep all versions. But I recommend to keep only the original version with the English opening and rip the other segments standalone. Search for entries that only have 810, 812, 813 etc. in their segment maps and rip them separately. You maybe have to change your settings if you filtered entries based on playtime.

Pro tip:
With Matroska's ordered chapters feature you could later combine the additional openings and the original movie to one file with selectable editions for each language.



For the future I recommend to make a decrypted full disc backup first, if you are not sure what to rip. It's way faster if you do multiple rips and doesn't unnecessary stress you drive and disc.
It also allows to watch the m2ts streams from the STREAMS folder before ripping to check what the difference is between segments and what to rip in the end.
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Re: confusing 3D-Bluray standard ripping options?

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ok, the filesize went down from 42 to 33 GB because id did not tikc the video-file, hence as per your explanation, all those are now only 2D rips;
but made an 3D MKV afterwards, that should have the proper ticks in place; however, it would not play properly with BINO 3d player, which i thought is the standard player for 3d Bluray, since i have not a proper 3d TV or projector, would play it on a normal computer monitor, if that is even (possible).
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