Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

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ezzieyguywuf
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Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by ezzieyguywuf »

I'll admit I'm a little confused on the LibreDrive and KEYDB.cfg

for context , I purchased a pioneer BDR-212DBK recently, and I'm interested in using it to back up my DVD and Blu-ray collection.

at the time of purchase I did not realize that both DVD and Blu-ray used encryption/ drm, though I guess the protection has been cracked for dvd. my understanding is that Blu-ray uses some updated data on newer discs to prevent such cracking

my confusion lies in: what do I need to do to backup my collection? do I just need a KEYDB.cfg? how often do I update it? do I also need LibreDrive? or are the two used in concert? does my drive support LibreDrive? how do I check the version of firmware I have?

I am using Linux of that makes any difference. thank you for any help.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

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ezzieyguywuf wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:11 am
I'll admit I'm a little confused on the LibreDrive and KEYDB.cfg

for context , I purchased a pioneer BDR-212DBK recently, and I'm interested in using it to back up my DVD and Blu-ray collection.

at the time of purchase I did not realize that both DVD and Blu-ray used encryption/ drm, though I guess the protection has been cracked for dvd. my understanding is that Blu-ray uses some updated data on newer discs to prevent such cracking

my confusion lies in: what do I need to do to backup my collection? do I just need a KEYDB.cfg? how often do I update it? do I also need LibreDrive? or are the two used in concert? does my drive support LibreDrive? how do I check the version of firmware I have?

I am using Linux of that makes any difference. thank you for any help.
Post your Makemkv info.
ezzieyguywuf
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by ezzieyguywuf »

Is this the makemkv info you're talking about?

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Información de unidad de disco
Nombre del SO del dispositivo: /dev/sr0
Perfil actual: DVD-ROM
Fabricante: PIONEER
Producto: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revisión: 1.02
Número de serie: CIDL052829WL
Fecha del firmware: 2022-03-16
Marcas de cifrado bus: 13

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID61
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Información de disco
Etiqueta: BOONDOCKS_SEASON_ONE_DISC_ONE
Marca de tiempo: 2006-05-31 08:56:28
Protección: CSS/CPPM
Capacidad: 7.29 Gb
Tipo de disco: DVD-ROM
Tamaño de disco: 120mm
Velocidad máxima de lectura: 10.08 Mbps [1x]
Número de capas: 2 (OTP)
MartyMcNuts
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

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ezzieyguywuf wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:04 am
Is this the makemkv info you're talking about?

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Información de unidad de disco
Nombre del SO del dispositivo: /dev/sr0
Perfil actual: DVD-ROM
Fabricante: PIONEER
Producto: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revisión: 1.02
Número de serie: CIDL052829WL
Fecha del firmware: 2022-03-16
Marcas de cifrado bus: 13

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID61
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Información de disco
Etiqueta: BOONDOCKS_SEASON_ONE_DISC_ONE
Marca de tiempo: 2006-05-31 08:56:28
Protección: CSS/CPPM
Capacidad: 7.29 Gb
Tipo de disco: DVD-ROM
Tamaño de disco: 120mm
Velocidad máxima de lectura: 10.08 Mbps [1x]
Número de capas: 2 (OTP)
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled

That drive will work fine as is for DVD/BD discs. It can also be flashed to enable UHD ripping if needed.
Cheers :D
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by alexbar »

That drive will work fine as is for DVD/BD discs. It can also be flashed to enable UHD ripping if needed.
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but it will also work as UHD playback?
MartyMcNuts
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by MartyMcNuts »

alexbar wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:12 am
That drive will work fine as is for DVD/BD discs. It can also be flashed to enable UHD ripping if needed.
but it will also work as UHD playback?
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Official playback, no, never.

Unofficial UHD playback, sure. Just integrate VLC, MPC-HC or whatever player with MakeMKV as it is used as the on-the-fly decrypter.

Direct UHD disc playback is not recommended as it will wear out your drive quite a bit faster.
Cheers :D
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by alexbar »

MartyMcNuts wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:18 am
alexbar wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:12 am
That drive will work fine as is for DVD/BD discs. It can also be flashed to enable UHD ripping if needed.
but it will also work as UHD playback?
Official playback, no, never.

Unofficial UHD playback, sure. Just integrate VLC, MPC-HC or whatever player with MakeMKV as it is used as the on-the-fly decrypter.

Direct UHD disc playback is not recommended as it will wear out your drive quite a bit faster.
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direct playback, do you mean unofficial playback? Is it the same with official UHD drives?
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK is this Libre drive?

Post by MartyMcNuts »

alexbar wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:39 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:18 am
alexbar wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 10:12 am
That drive will work fine as is for DVD/BD discs. It can also be flashed to enable UHD ripping if needed.
but it will also work as UHD playback?
Official playback, no, never.

Unofficial UHD playback, sure. Just integrate VLC, MPC-HC or whatever player with MakeMKV as it is used as the on-the-fly decrypter.

Direct UHD disc playback is not recommended as it will wear out your drive quite a bit faster.
direct playback, do you mean unofficial playback? Is it the same with official UHD drives?
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These days there is no official playback method as most people don't have an older Intel CPU with sgx and the old version of Powerdvd that still had UHD playback ability.

Cyberlink removed UHD playback from PowerDVD a few years ago now so there's no longer any official UHD playback software. So, the only way to play a UHD disc is using an unofficial player such as VLC, MPC-HC etc.

By direct disc playback, I mean exactly that. It is not recommended to play UHD discs at all. It is best to rip them and then play the ripped file(s).
Cheers :D
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