Help me understand duplicate titles listed in TOC

[enigma_0z]

For some DVDs, I have something like this (Ex: The **Fancy Icons** Movie), where the first (obviously main) title is listed twice, trying to figure out what they are, and why `makemkv` sees them, but other DVD listing tools do not.

Trying to figure out if it's worth ripping both titles, or if there's nothing gained by doing the same thing, apparently (?) twice.

I can post the full `--robot` output when this disc finishes ripping, if needed.

Simplified `makemkv` output from `--robot`

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0 - 1:26:10, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-B1_t00.mkv
1 - 1:26:10, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-B1_t01.mkv
2 - 0:04:59, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-C3_t02.mkv
3 - 0:02:38, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-C5_t03.mkv
4 - 0:06:45, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-D1_t04.mkv
5 - 0:05:40, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-D2_t05.mkv
6 - 0:03:33, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-D3_t06.mkv
7 - 0:04:37, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-D4_t07.mkv
8 - 0:03:22, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-E1_t08.mkv
9 - 0:03:35, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-E2_t09.mkv
10 - 0:03:17, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-E3_t10.mkv
11 - 0:03:49, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-E4_t11.mkv
12 - 0:08:59, **Fancy Icons** Movie, The-E5_t12.mkv

Full output from `lsdvd` for comparison

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Couldn't open /dev/disk8 for title
Disc Title: unknown
Title: 01, Length: 01:26:16.867 Chapters: 16, Cells: 19, Audio streams: 05, Subpictures: 07
Title: 02, Length: 00:00:05.500 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 03, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 04, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 05, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 06, Length: 00:04:59.900 Chapters: 02, Cells: 03, Audio streams: 04, Subpictures: 04
Title: 07, Length: 00:01:57.166 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 08, Length: 00:02:39.233 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 09, Length: 00:06:45.800 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 10, Length: 00:05:40.967 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 11, Length: 00:03:34.000 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 12, Length: 00:04:38.333 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 13, Length: 00:03:22.834 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 14, Length: 00:03:35.934 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 15, Length: 00:03:18.100 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 16, Length: 00:03:49.633 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 02
Title: 17, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 18, Length: 00:01:50.100 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 19, Length: 00:01:50.100 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 20, Length: 00:09:01.233 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 21, Length: 00:09:01.233 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 22, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 23, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 00, Subpictures: 00
Title: 24, Length: 00:00:14.900 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 25, Length: 00:00:14.400 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 26, Length: 00:00:46.767 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 27, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 28, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 29, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 30, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 31, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00
Title: 32, Length: 00:00:00.500 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00

[chris_cta]

It is possible that the opening title captions and end credits are in another language other than english in the second apparently duplicated 'mkv' file.

For example:-

English version
"Disney presents"
[Film title in English]

"The End"

second movie track
"Disney presente"
[Film title in French]

"Fin"

I have come across this quite often on BluRay region free disks.
hope this helps
Chris C

[ChrDk]

It is possible that the opening title captions and end credits are in another language other than english in the second apparently duplicated 'mkv' file.

Thank you!
I was looking at the same "problem" of why some of my 4K discs gave the same title 2, 3 or 4 times, and wrap my head around it, until I saw this post and checked 2 of the discs ("Star Wars - The Skywalker Saga" collection), and only then realized the opening text where in four different languages. Now it makes sense.

I'm guessing there's no way to tell which title belongs to which country/language, right?

/Chris