Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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WEZZEBE
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by WEZZEBE »

Is there anything that can play Dolby Vision Profile 7 FEL and MEL from mkv-files with high quality Audio as well (Or coming soon)? Or from the full 4K BLU-RAY Rip [ISO/folder structures]. I don't care for a Menu so that's not needed.

And not via Plex please.
Preferred via Usb-SSD or NAS-Connection Without the NAS needing to do work except transfering the file.

1) Maybe like a self made Mini-PC or so that could do the trick? With certain software or so.
Or
2) Any Media-Player coming soon?

Thx in advance for the info
afarvvik
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any idea why a P8 DV video in EAC3-MP4 format is playing in HDR on a LG c8?

this is the mediainfo of the movie

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GENERAL
Format
MPEG-4
Duration
1 h 48 min
Bitrate
16.8mb/s
Size
12.8 GiB
VIDEO
Format
HEVC (10 bits)
Resolution
3 840 × 1 608
Aspect ratio
2.40:1
Frame rate
23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Bit rate
16.0mb/s
HDR format
Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Color primaries
BT.2020
Transfer characteristics
PQ
AUDIO
1.
English English / E-AC-3 / 8ch / 768kb/s / E-AC-3 7.1
ENCODE SETTINGS
cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=12 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=156665 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=0 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=16000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=32000 / vbv-bufsize=40000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=683,136 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0 / conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc
tried converting it to m2ts using tsmuxer as I do with mkv files but it gives a error at 60% -"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps"

thanks
Hellboy.
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There is any compatibility or playback difference between "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06" and "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.10"?
Thanks.
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I'm trying to use dovi_tool and follow the workflows to described here. I have a windows 11 machine, but can't for the life of me work out where to put the dovi_tool.exe file so that is addressable by the command line. Can anyone enlighten me?
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kaledi wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:40 pm I'm trying to use dovi_tool and follow the workflows to described here. I have a windows 11 machine, but can't for the life of me work out where to put the dovi_tool.exe file so that is addressable by the command line. Can anyone enlighten me?
Quick and easy method, download and merge the "Command Prompt Here" registry tweak and merge it into the Windows registry (double click the .reg file or right click it and "Merge"), it will apply system wide, then just right click in the folder where dovi_tool.exe is and "Open Command Prompt Here". Pretty sure this should work in Win 11 too.

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https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/158472-add-remove-command-prompt-open-here-context-menu-windows-10-a.html
Windows:
Identifying The Correct Title To Rip: Process Monitor Method - GetMPLS Method
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:34 pm Same story on my PC monitor(samsung 400nits) with the Energy player.
Hi RESET, I still notice raised black level when using Microsoft Hardware Video Decoder in the Energy player. I've tried both on Oled G8 monitor and S95C TV. Does this happen to your samsung monitor? I began to worry there's something wrong with my settings.

Currently, I set output to 10bit Full Range RGB HDR in the AMD control panel, and Full Range input in samsung menu. I've tried restoring all other settings to default, but it doesn't change anything. Do you know if any other setting that may cause the problem?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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afarvvik wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:18 pm any idea why a P8 DV video in EAC3-MP4 format is playing in HDR on a LG c8?

this is the mediainfo of the movie

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GENERAL
Format
MPEG-4
Duration
1 h 48 min
Bitrate
16.8mb/s
Size
12.8 GiB
VIDEO
Format
HEVC (10 bits)
Resolution
3 840 × 1 608
Aspect ratio
2.40:1
Frame rate
23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Bit rate
16.0mb/s
HDR format
Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Color primaries
BT.2020
Transfer characteristics
PQ
AUDIO
1.
English English / E-AC-3 / 8ch / 768kb/s / E-AC-3 7.1
ENCODE SETTINGS
cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=12 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=156665 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=0 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=16000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=32000 / vbv-bufsize=40000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=683,136 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0 / conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc
tried converting it to m2ts using tsmuxer as I do with mkv files but it gives a error at 60% -"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps"

thanks
hi @RESET_9999

any idea why this is happening? according to your google sheet P8 should work in the C8.
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sw5163 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:34 am Hi RESET, I still notice raised black level when using Microsoft Hardware Video Decoder in the Energy player. I've tried both on Oled G8 monitor and S95C TV. Does this happen to your samsung monitor? I began to worry there's something wrong with my settings.
Currently, I set output to 10bit Full Range RGB HDR in the AMD control panel, and Full Range input in samsung menu. I've tried restoring all other settings to default, but it doesn't change anything. Do you know if any other setting that may cause the problem?
I'll check on my C2. On the Samsung LS49CG932SNXZA , it seems fine. I use 444 12bit and the video I did on youtube about this player was captured/played in 422 12bit.
afarvvik wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 am any idea why this is happening? according to your google sheet P8 should work in the C8.
idk, your mediainfo is incomplete. I guess your file is mp4 with id hev1.. remux to ts or use my script to convert to mp4 with id dvhe
Hellboy. wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:03 pm There is any compatibility or playback difference between "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06" and "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.10"?
Thanks.
the .10 .06 .07 etc.. is related to the resolution/framerate max pps
viewtopic.php?p=121936#p121936
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@RESET_9999

I had a 10min HDR clip, and I generated DV in Resolve but forgot to set output blanking at 42/42. While injecting DV, I edited L5 to 42/42. Is the DV correct here or I have to generate the XML from resolve again?
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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:24 pm On the Samsung LS49CG932SNXZA , it seems fine.
Do you have Game Mode on or off on that monitor?
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:24 pm I use 444 12bit and the video I did on youtube about this player was captured/played in 422 12bit.
I just tried YUV 444 12bit, still the same. Both P5 and P8.1 contents have raised black on my setup. I also tried your black test file.
Playing directly in Samsung internal player:
internal.player.JPG
internal.player.JPG (3.33 MiB) Viewed 16829 times
Playing in Movies & TV app:
movies&tv.JPG
movies&tv.JPG (3.21 MiB) Viewed 16829 times
These photos were shot with 6400 ISO and 32 seconds exposure, the green is actually dark grey and wasn't that bad to naked eyes. I'm going to check with another Nvidia laptop later in case it's an AMD APU problem.
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@RESET_9999

Can you please tell me what the difference is between these two RPU of yours?
Generated_OSC.bin
DV_L2_original.xml


Thanks!
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thirdmoon wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:05 am @RESET_9999

I had a 10min HDR clip, and I generated DV in Resolve but forgot to set output blanking at 42/42. While injecting DV, I edited L5 to 42/42. Is the DV correct here or I have to generate the XML from resolve again?
well your video min_pq metadata wont be as accurate. It's not really a big deal though.
powdeau wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:33 pm @RESET_9999

Can you please tell me what the difference is between these two RPU of yours?
Generated_OSC.bin
DV_L2_original.xml

Thanks!
the rpu bin file is with all the L2 trims removed and the XML is the original metadata with trims.
The generated trims have a brightening effect in low nits scenes and some people like it and don't care about the creator's intent.

sw5163 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:30 am These photos were shot with 6400 ISO and 32 seconds exposure, the green is actually dark grey and wasn't that bad to naked eyes. I'm going to check with another Nvidia laptop later in case it's an AMD APU problem.
wow, ok no there's no such issue on my setup (nvidia). Blacks are actually better than in HDR10 when I put them side by side.
And no crush, I can see 65 flashing. I forgot to check on the C2 but if it was as bad as in your photo, I would have noticed the other day.

this is on the Samsung G9
Image
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RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:29 pm wow, ok no there's no such issue on my setup (nvidia). Blacks are actually better than in HDR10 when I put them side by side.
I just tested with a 4060 laptop, DV still has raised black. The HDR10 playback looks similar to yours, but also has a very slight raised black. I previously considered it's decoder related because the top and bottom bars were pure black when playing 3840x1600 content. So strange that DV is much worse on my setup.
RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:29 pm this is on the Samsung G9
May I ask do you have Game Mode on or off on that monitor?
Also, could you please tell me your GPU model and driver version?
Do you use the 1$ "HEVC Video Extensions" in MSFT store or do you use the free "HEVC Video Extensions from Device Manufacturer"?
I want to restore all devices and copy exactly the same setting you're using to see what will happen. Thanks!
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sw5163 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:54 am I just tested
Yes, you're right. I couldn't see it on my Samsung monitor because it's in a bright room but on the C2 I can see the slightly raised blacks.
The problem seem to be the Microsoft HEVC extension because it's a lot worse with HDR10 but if you force ffmpeg for the decoding, it's fine.


EDIT: wait that's not it. I couldn't understand how I could have missed the raised black on my Samsung.
So I played with the settings (game mode). Played some HDR10 and DV on Movies&tv / energy player and somehow whatever I did raise the black.
Rebooted my PC, and now I no longer see the raised black... Trying to figure out what's causing the issue

ps I use the 1$ extension and not the free one. Game mode off. driver 546.01 rtx3070
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RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:34 pm Yes, you're right. I couldn't see it on my Samsung monitor because it's in a bright room but on the C2 I can see the slightly raised blacks.
QD-OLED will lit up by ambient light, I tend to use it in a dark room. G9 is really wide...
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:34 pm The problem seem to be the Microsoft HEVC extension because it's a lot worse with HDR10 but if you force ffmpeg for the decoding, it's fine.
Strangely for me, DV is worse than HDR10. Maybe because LG supports DV and Samsung does not? I read somewhere DV can be either TV-LED, or Player-LED, or map to HDR10/SDR by player and send HDR10/SDR signal, I'm guessing on Samsung it's the third one?
HDR10 6400ISO 32 seconds exposure (no HDR calibration configuration file):
Image
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:34 pm Rebooted my PC, and now I no longer see the raised black... Trying to figure out what's causing the issue
Reboot doesn't change anything on my end. Since I can get most of other players to play pure black, the issue is still highly likely MSFT's fault.
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