Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Yoshitaka
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Which workflows would be best to convert this mkv to mp4 for C9 playback?
I'd like to keep audio highest quality possible.
I know that LG C9 has issues playing TrueHD.. Eac3 doesn't always sound the best, and the pcm conversion does? Is that right?
Should I change this to DT DL P7? Or perhaps single layer P8? Differences in video look or is it the same?
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 43 min
Bit rate : 56.4 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.283
Stream size : 64.3 GiB (95%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 997 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 382 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2 h 43 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 123 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 5 211 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 3.57 GiB (5%)
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Number of dynamic objects : 11
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE
I'd like to keep audio highest quality possible.
I know that LG C9 has issues playing TrueHD.. Eac3 doesn't always sound the best, and the pcm conversion does? Is that right?
Should I change this to DT DL P7? Or perhaps single layer P8? Differences in video look or is it the same?
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 43 min
Bit rate : 56.4 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.283
Stream size : 64.3 GiB (95%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 997 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 382 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2 h 43 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 123 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 5 211 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 3.57 GiB (5%)
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Number of dynamic objects : 11
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
1. if it's fel and expands brightness or improves details: MP4 version + workflow 4-3
2. mel or fel that doesn't touch brightness or details: MP4 or TS version + workflow 4-2
the MP4 version always encode DDP for any lossless audio but if your file has DTS, I think the C9 supports playing the core so that might be better than DDP. TrueHD will not work and PCM is downgraded to 2 channels IIRC.
2. mel or fel that doesn't touch brightness or details: MP4 or TS version + workflow 4-2
the MP4 version always encode DDP for any lossless audio but if your file has DTS, I think the C9 supports playing the core so that might be better than DDP. TrueHD will not work and PCM is downgraded to 2 channels IIRC.
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Yoshitaka
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Would there be a benefit to doing a TrueHD to DTS-HD MA conversion in that case vs EAC3?
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
The core in a DTS-HD7.1 track is only 5.1 so if you have a 7.1 audio system, DDP may be better.
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Yoshitaka
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ok, and FLAC doesn't work with DV MP4's? Does it have undesirable results perhaps and EAC3 is just the better or best option?
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I'm not sure.
Here's an audio test file if you want to try: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wRlklh ... drive_link

Here's an audio test file if you want to try: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wRlklh ... drive_link

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Yoshitaka
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
The TV speakers really do have good bass to it.
It seemed like the last track was the loudest and fullest on the tv speakers. Makes sense.
It seemed like the last track was the loudest and fullest on the tv speakers. Makes sense.
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tjayz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I'm not sure when it changed, but Emby can now cast P7 DL DT or ST in any container that I tested, TrueHD 7.1 or DTS-HD MA 7.1, direct from the server to the media player via UPnP. When using the UBP-X800m2 which cannot add client apps to it, this makes Emby the only choice. I could never get Jellyfin or Kodi to work with the UBP and was always using Windows Media Player to cast FEL P7 titles with lossless audio. There is now an all in one solution that makes your library look good! Thought I'd share since I learned so much from this thread, been reading it for years on and off. Cheers!
UBP-X800M2 / LG OLED CX / NAD M17 V2i
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valington
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Hallo Reset my question is if i take mkv 7 profile dolby vision and then muxe it in ts muxer to ts container could i play it in clon oppo in ts container 7 profile dolby vision and do i get true dolby vision like in bdmv container ? Cause my friend tried it and said that this oppotunity don t workRESET_9999 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:08 pm The core in a DTS-HD7.1 track is only 5.1 so if you have a 7.1 audio system, DDP may be better.
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Yes,but as noted in the excel sheet in my signature, on the x700/x800m2 and oppo, some ST P7 rip will not work.valington wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:48 am Hallo Reset my question is if i take mkv 7 profile dolby vision and then muxe it in ts muxer to ts container could i play it in clon oppo in ts container 7 profile dolby vision and do i get true dolby vision like in bdmv container ? Cause my friend tried it and said that this oppotunity don t work
Use workflow 4-3 to get a dual track dual layer file and all the rips will work.
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ArArdin
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STDL mkv --> DTDL mp4
It's been quite a while since using RESET_9999's scripts and I'm somewhat struggling with the current ones. My newbee apologies for asking.
Is it possible to convert a dovi P7 mkv (singletrack duallayer) into a P7 dualtrack-duallayer mp4 file? If so, can someone tell me which steps in what script?
Is it possible to convert a dovi P7 mkv (singletrack duallayer) into a P7 dualtrack-duallayer mp4 file? If so, can someone tell me which steps in what script?
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RESET_9999
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Re: STDL mkv --> DTDL mp4
MP4 version of my script and then workflow 4-3ArArdin wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:58 pm It's been quite a while since using RESET_9999's scripts and I'm somewhat struggling with the current ones. My newbee apologies for asking.
Is it possible to convert a dovi P7 mkv (singletrack duallayer) into a P7 dualtrack-duallayer mp4 file? If so, can someone tell me which steps in what script?
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ArArdin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Nice. Went flawless after clearing some path-related issues. Really feel like a blundering novice here.
Thanks a bunch for your quick response
Thanks a bunch for your quick response
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ArArdin
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mp4 STDL and chapters?
A few questions regarding the options after the first "4" (DoVi Profile 7 Input (MKV/BDMV)) if you don't mind, RESET_9999.
It is possible for P7 mp4 to be STDL (IIRC the old Yusesope tool could do so), where BL and EL+RPU be interleaved in one hevc track. Is there a particular reason to why there's no option to output such STDL mp4?
Another thing is, I've recently learned that chapters can be muxed in mp4. Can you tell me how this is done in case I have a - let's say chapters.txt file - or do I have to add the chapters in mkv first?
It is possible for P7 mp4 to be STDL (IIRC the old Yusesope tool could do so), where BL and EL+RPU be interleaved in one hevc track. Is there a particular reason to why there's no option to output such STDL mp4?
Another thing is, I've recently learned that chapters can be muxed in mp4. Can you tell me how this is done in case I have a - let's say chapters.txt file - or do I have to add the chapters in mkv first?
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RESET_9999
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Re: mp4 STDL and chapters?
the ST-DL P7 workflow is hidden a bit but it's there in workflow 4-1-2. It's only for BDMV or DT-DL input though.ArArdin wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:46 pm A few questions regarding the options after the first "4" (DoVi Profile 7 Input (MKV/BDMV)) if you don't mind, RESET_9999.
It is possible for P7 mp4 to be STDL (IIRC the old Yusesope tool could do so), where BL and EL+RPU be interleaved in one hevc track. Is there a particular reason to why there's no option to output such STDL mp4?
Another thing is, I've recently learned that chapters can be muxed in mp4. Can you tell me how this is done in case I have a - let's say chapters.txt file - or do I have to add the chapters in mkv first?
I guess I could let workflow 5 to mux the ST P7 video untouched(right now it convert to p8)