Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Mrmorrison wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:34 am Or do you also lose overall image quality?
sometimes yes
https://slow.pics/c/UnrLCYuv
https://slow.pics/c/TR4EhPpl
https://slow.pics/c/9UuZ2ruK
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RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:04 am
Mrmorrison wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:34 am Or do you also lose overall image quality?
sometimes yes
https://slow.pics/c/UnrLCYuv
https://slow.pics/c/TR4EhPpl
https://slow.pics/c/9UuZ2ruK
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So, the point is this:
I'm asking what I lose if I convert the FEL to 8.1 for a reason. The reason is that my TV, unfortunately, is PLAYER LED and therefore leaves the "dirty work" to my x800M2. However, the difference that I notice when I watch a film with Dolby vision played directly from the TV is notable compared to when I play the same film on the player.
So I always prefer to watch my films directly from the TV (Kodi mod, emby.. in short, app with ExoPlayer which manages Dolby Vision perfectly).

Until now I used x800m2 only for FEL (the only mode that my TV does not support). But, for simple curiositym I started converting FEL to 8 to find differences between the FEL reproduced by the player and profile 8 reproduced by the TV. The result is that, for my taste, the TV (profile 8.1) always wins against the player (profile 7 FEL). More color and more brightness and objectively a more beautiful image.

In my situation, therefore, am I right to convert FEL to 8 to be able to use dolby vision directly from the TV compared to using dolby vision FEL (darker, less colorful) from x800m2?

I hope I was clear. Forgive my English :?
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Mrmorrison wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:40 pm Until now I used x800m2 only for FEL (the only mode that my TV does not support). But, for simple curiositym I started converting FEL to 8 to find differences between the FEL reproduced by the player and profile 8 reproduced by the TV. The result is that, for my taste, the TV (profile 8.1) always wins against the player (profile 7 FEL). More color and more brightness and objectively a more beautiful image.
In my situation, therefore, am I right to convert FEL to 8 to be able to use dolby vision directly from the TV compared to using dolby vision FEL (darker, less colorful) from x800m2?
I hope I was clear. Forgive my English :?
p7 to p8 from a movie that expands brightness is wrong and worse than HDR10. The dv metadata are meant to work with the FEL brightness only and the P8 conversion will look much darker than intended.
watch this comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObky4peBXE


Also, on the x800m2/x700 player-led mode, RPU has no effect with 1000nits movies.
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This is why I'm confused. Because for me it's the opposite. The P8 film (converted - reproduced directly from the TV, therefore "LED TV") is brighter than the same film in P7 FEL (from x800m2, therefore "LED player"). Maybe I persist in not understanding something.

Look here:


FAST X - FEL - X800M2

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FAST X (EX FEL) CONVERTED TO P8 - SONY BRAVIA A8H

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Sorry for my English.
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Ok, tomorrow I'll do the same test with this film.

Thank you
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My LG OLED55B7V is not able to play any of those.

Is there anything what i can do to be able to watch them?
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mad83 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:40 am My LG OLED55B7V is not able to play any of those.

Is there anything what i can do to be able to watch them?
I don't know. You may have to mux them to MP4?
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Hi RESET_9999!

I used 1.9.2.6. beta 8-7-1 Dolby CM_offline (export SDR 100nits trim pass). My input was a 4K file but I got 2K output. I there any change to get 4K SDR MOV? Thanks!
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BadSector81 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:55 pm Hi RESET_9999!

I used 1.9.2.6. beta 8-7-1 Dolby CM_offline (export SDR 100nits trim pass). My input was a 4K file but I got 2K output. I there any change to get 4K SDR MOV? Thanks!
line 117
set downscale=NO

PS expect the mov file to be huge 500gb +
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RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:59 pm
BadSector81 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:55 pm Hi RESET_9999!

I used 1.9.2.6. beta 8-7-1 Dolby CM_offline (export SDR 100nits trim pass). My input was a 4K file but I got 2K output. I there any change to get 4K SDR MOV? Thanks!
line 117
set downscale=NO

PS expect the mov file to be huge 500gb +
Nice, thank you so much!
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DV FEL (first file) - X800M2

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DV 8 (movie ST SL P7 FEL converted with DoviScript) - Sony Bravia A8H

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I must be sincere. To the naked eye, without having two televisions next to each other, I don't notice any difference. Contrary to what happened with FAST X, with this film there isn't such a clear difference. Perhaps from the photos the FEL has a very slight bluer tone but I really can't find any differences. What do you think about it?

I found the entire movie and converted it with your tool without modifying L5
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well as you have shown in your FAST X comp, regardless of FEL, there is a difference between your BD player and internal tv player(tv being brighter , cooler).
So those comparison looks as expected IMO because the P8 file has wrong metadata for the BL brightness, which makes it much darker than it should. This is the reason why the brightness ''almost'' looks like FEL playback on the x800m2.

If you try the test file that has properly generated P8 metadata (resolve), then like FASTX, it should look brighter using your TV internal player.

But it does look like your TV internal app(looks warm) DV has a different temperature settings than your HDMI input (looks cool)
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hey again, - audio format question

firstly this tool is great I've been using it a lot , thanks again for the help with the tools.

I mostly use the scripts to convert p7 mkv files, to p8 ts for my LG C1.

lg support says that ts files with pcm audio are supported.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/help-libr ... 3095976198

but trying to convert with the script returns something like "unsupported audio format" and stops the conversion.

I tried taking the HEVC p8 file created and mux it myself successfully,

can this be fixed in the batch file?
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