LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

[Coopervid]

Got my new BDR-X13UBK drive and it isn't reading 4k discs. It was my understanding that Pioneer drives containing "U" in the model number all have UHD reading capability, but I have tried several discs and none read, same as the last Pioneer drive that didn't have a "U". When I open MakeMKV with a disc already in the drive nothing happens. When I put a new disc in, MakeMKV sees a disc has been inserted and attempts to read, then gives up after a minute and says "No disc inserted".

Here's the status window info:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13
Revision: 1.01
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2022-02-18
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9400
Firmware version: ID56

No disc inserted

I Told you you should have waited.... There is a X13U 1.01 on the list but the firmware might differ. Send a PM to mike admin and he can dump your firmware to his server to add support.

[techguymaxc]

Thanks,
I'll PM Mike.

[Coopervid]

A big warning to everybody purchasing UHD capable Pioneer full size drives!!!

Starting with the 13 series you can't assume anymore that the letter "U" in their drive names also allows UHD capability!!!!

These are UHD capable:

X13U-S
S13UBK
S13U-X

This is NOT UHD capable:

X13UBK

Edited and corrected on Nov. 3rd, 2022.

[techguymaxc]

Lol

[Coopervid]

Read your PM

[asmcom]

A big warning to everybody purchasing UHD capable Pioneer full size drives!!!

Starting with the 13 series you can't assume anymore that the letter "U" in their drive names also allows UHD capability!!!!

These are UHD capable:

X13U-S
S13UBK

These are NOT UHD capable:

X13UBK
S13U-X

S13U-X should be UHD capable unless I am reading something wrong?

COMPUTER DRIVES
BDR-S13U-X
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OVERVIEW

SPECS
KEY FEATURES
Ultra HD Blu-ray compatible
Yes
M-DISC compatible
Yes
CD-DA（audio CD）playback quality checking function
Yes
PureRead 4＋
Yes
Custom Eco function
Yes
Display disc information
Yes
Easy Setting
Yes
Dust-resisting and sound-dampening front bezel
Yes
Honeycomb structure
Yes
High-quality loading mechanism and noise reduction finish
Yes
All-black housing with special coating to reduce vibration, improve heat dissipation
Yes
Low-noise electrolytic capacitors
Yes
Low-resistance flat cable
Yes
Anti-vibration cushions and rubber
Yes
Copper-plated screws
Yes
Pioneer BD Drive Utility
Yes
Dust-resisting and sound-dampening mechanism
Yes
PEAK POWER REDUCER
Yes
BDXL compatible
Yes
Optimum Writing Speed Feature
Yes *This function emphasizes writing accuracy by automatically selecting the optimum writing speed for various BD-R media
Optimal Write Strategy Prediction Algorithm
Yes
Disc Record Surface Quality Mode
Yes *This mode reduces the apparent color unevenness of the disc after writing.
DVD-R CLV fixed writing mode
Yes *When writing a DVD-R, the writing method is fixed to CLV. This mode reduces the apparent color unevenness of the disc while maintaining the writing accuracy
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS - 4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY
Operating System
Windows®11, Windows 10
CPU
7th generation Intel Core® i7/i5 processor for Desktop PC (Kaby Lake-S), 7th generation Intel Core i7/i5 processor for Notebook PC (Kaby Lake-H) *U processor is incompatible
GPU
Intel® HD Graphics 630 (Internal GPU for 7th generation processor)
Memory
6GB minimum
External Display
HDMI 2.0a and HDCP² 2.2 compatible, 4K display (3840 x 2160 minimum display resolution), HDR compatible (Incompatible display reproduces HDR contents with HDR>SDR format.)
Motherboard
Intel SGX(Software Guard Extensions) support Intel 200 series motherboard, HDCP² 2.2/HDMI 2.0a output compatible, Intel internal GPU output compatible

Ultra HD Blu-ray compatible, with playback software included
Ultra HD Blu-ray offers 4K resolution as well as richer color tones, for more realistic images.
*Playback of Ultra HD Blu-ray requires a CPU that supports Intel Software Guard Extensions (Intel SGX) technology. Intel SGX has been removed from Intel 11th generation and newer CPUs, and support for SGX may be removed on new versions of Intel drivers or utility programs such as Intel SGX and Intel Management Engine drivers and firmware in the future. Such changes could cause these platforms to lose support for Ultra HD Blu-ray movie disc playback.
For information on other PC environment requirements, download the Ultra HD Blu-ray Advisor Tool to your PC, and check. https://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e/ibs/eula.php

[Coopervid]

I have to correct myself. The S13U-X is UHD capable. The US site must have been corrected since it was listed as not UHD compatible. I will modify my post above.

[asmcom]

I have order a couple of these models to test amongst others. When I saw your post I thought I would double check in case Pioneer USA had given me wrong information.

Anyway no harm done and have a nice day.

Asmcom

[tmackery]

Just bought the BDR-X13U-S . It looks like the firmware should be supported (X13U 1.01) but I'm still getting a Status of "Possible, not yet enabled" even after enabling internet access. Is there something I'm missing or forgetting to do? Or is it not supported yet?

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.01
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2022-02-28
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 61

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID29

No disc inserted

[larry.schapker]

I too am having issues with a newly received Pioneer BDR-X13U-S.

I load a UltraHD disk (i.e. Deadpool) into the drive and using MakeMKV v1.17.2 on Kubuntu (KDE Ubuntu), the app can see the disk, but not "open" the disk:

From the "Info pane"

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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr2
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXX
Firmware date: 2022-02-28
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 60

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID29

Disc Information
Label: DEADPOOL
Timestamp: 2016-04-05 14:48:45
Protection: AACS2.0/C v60
Data capacity: 54.54 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 2
Bus encryption flags: 80

Snippet from the log after attempting to open the disk:

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Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A30..0020..03F to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A40..0020..03F to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A30..0020..07F to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A40..0020..07F to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A30..0020..0BF to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A40..0020..0BF to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A30..0020..0FF to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A40..0020..0FF to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT' occurred while issuing SCSI command A40..002000800 to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:COPY PROTECTION KEY EXCHANGE FAILURE - KEY NOT ESTABLISHED' occurred while issuing SCSI command AD010..080002400 to device 'SG:dev_21:7'
Can't read AACS VID from disc - most likely current AACS host certificate is revoked by your drive
Saved AACS dump file as /home/larry-local/.MakeMKV/MKB20_v60_Deadpool_4B6D.tgz
LibreDrive compatible drive is required to open this disc - video can't be decrypted.
Failed to open disc

Not sure what other information I should be providing. Please advise!
Thank you!

[Coopervid]

Guys, don't just post - read.

This applies to both larry.schapker and tmackery. Just a few posts above I stated:

A big warning to everybody purchasing UHD capable Pioneer full size drives!!!

Starting with the 13 series you can't assume anymore that the letter "U" in their drive names also allows UHD capability!!!!

These are UHD capable:

X13U-S
S13UBK
S13U-X

This is NOT UHD capable:

X13UBK

[larry.schapker]

Agreed. I seen your post, but my drive is supported supposedly.

[dcoke22]

These are UHD capable:

X13U-S
S13UBK
S13U-X

This is NOT UHD capable:

X13UBK

As I understand it, both larry.schapker and tmackery said they have a BDR-X13U-S which is UHD compatible I think. Perhaps mike admin needs a firmware dump to be able to specifically support those drives?

[Coopervid]

Oops. Yes. These Pioneer product codes drive me nuts. Yes, they should conatct mike to upload their firmware to his server.

[larry.schapker]

Yes, they should conatct mike to upload their firmware to his server.

I'll be glad to do so if I have some basic instructions (i.e. I'm new to "driver Firmware" <grin>). A simple list of instructions (maybe there is a link?) would help greatly.