yep, so far, all the players that have the option in the menu to select LLDV have no issue. Oppo / Dune and Zidoo player.chros wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:07 am Interesting, I just checked Oppo setting it to Player-led: all the L2 trims are working, but only L1 lower contrast (last one) resulted in visible change on the G2.
Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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I have an Oppo clone and have been concerned with the recent bug reports. It is almost time for me to buy a new TV and I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:57 amyep, so far, all the players that have the option in the menu to select LLDV have no issue. Oppo / Dune and Zidoo player.chros wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:07 am Interesting, I just checked Oppo setting it to Player-led: all the L2 trims are working, but only L1 lower contrast (last one) resulted in visible change on the G2.
Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?
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Well I'm not sure about the CX, we have conflicting reports:jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.
Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?
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set your Oppo to TV-LED.
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Thanks very much. I misunderstood the previous posts. I see now that it says, any player with the LLDV switch are not impacted. I thought it was necessary to enable LLDV as a workaround. Understood and thanks very much for your help.RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:31 pmWell I'm not sure about the CX, we have conflicting reports:jayper wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm I was thinking about trying to track down a CX to get a set that doesn't suffer from the issues recently reported.
Am I correct in my understanding, that I will be OK purchasing a more recently released set, if I set my Oppo to player led?
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set your Oppo to TV-LED.
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I think I misunderstood too. LLDV (Player-Led) should work on all TVs because the player is basically decoding DoVi into HDR10, right?
Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?
Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?
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of course, it will work. But we are not talking about the L1 bug with cmv 2.9 hdmi input if that's what you think.sofakng wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 am Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?
@Chros and I were talking about another bug with the x700/x800m2/shield when connected to an LLDV TV (player-led).
so many DV bugs that it's hard to follow
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Oh geez! Haha ... Yeah, there are too many bugs to keep track of. 
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Oh shoot, OK. That explains my confusion. I thought we were discussing the L1 bug, dang it.RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:54 amof course, it will work. But we are not talking about the L1 bug with cmv 2.9 hdmi input if that's what you think.sofakng wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 am Are you saying that the Oppo-203 (or clone) will work in TV-Led mode with LG C1?
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I hope the commercialization of microled tv with 10000 nit brightness is fast tracked. No more of this tonemapping shit like dolby vision is needed.
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Wow. Other than screen burn-in issues, I wonder if such bright displays could raise worryings about the eyes themselves. Nowadays tv's with "proper" footage already comes close to hurting them.
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Yeah 10000 nits will be probably too much, unless if it is for watching outside in daylight. 1000 nits full screen in dim watching environment is already like a flashbang in the face (speaking from experience). Maybe creators should stop mastering contents at 10000 nits.ArArdin wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:47 amWow. Other than screen burn-in issues, I wonder if such bright displays could raise worryings about the eyes themselves. Nowadays tv's with "proper" footage already comes close to hurting them.
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sure 10 000nits is bright but it's nothing compared to real-life highlights.
I think grading at 10 000nits(or maybe at least 4000) is a good idea as long as you also do the DV trim passes for low-nits TVs.
Because you can keep the highest dynamic range possible and your grade is future-proof for when there are brighter TVs. (eg no need to re-grade the movie in 10 years when all the TVs are 4000nits capable)
I think grading at 10 000nits(or maybe at least 4000) is a good idea as long as you also do the DV trim passes for low-nits TVs.
Because you can keep the highest dynamic range possible and your grade is future-proof for when there are brighter TVs. (eg no need to re-grade the movie in 10 years when all the TVs are 4000nits capable)
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I asked before but don't think I got a reply:
When using the scripts: Any ideas on how to fix when I get weird audio sync issues when making profile 5 to 8 hybrids? It happens often with WEB-DL films, less often with WEB-DL TV. They have the EXACT same duration.
With MKVToolnix audio sync is crazily wrong.
Seems like muxing to TS works, but TrueHD is still slightly out of sync for some reason, while DTS-HD MA and AC-3 seems in sync.
Anything I should try? This happens on a lot of files.
When using the scripts: Any ideas on how to fix when I get weird audio sync issues when making profile 5 to 8 hybrids? It happens often with WEB-DL films, less often with WEB-DL TV. They have the EXACT same duration.
With MKVToolnix audio sync is crazily wrong.
Seems like muxing to TS works, but TrueHD is still slightly out of sync for some reason, while DTS-HD MA and AC-3 seems in sync.
Anything I should try? This happens on a lot of files.
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You can try setting video properties "Default duration/FPs" to the proper value before mux. Saved me couple of times.
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I got the Sony X800m2 and spent some time comparing it to the Sony X700. And yes, there are some picture quality improvements: finer gradation, less image noice, slightly richer colors. It also preserves the film grain better than the X700. In my book it is well worth the price difference, not to mention the superior build quality of the X800m2 and the much better remote.
UHD players: Sony X700, Zidoo Z1000 Pro
Audio system: Sony HT-A9
TV: Sony 77A80J
Audio system: Sony HT-A9
TV: Sony 77A80J