Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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DolbyVisionFTW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Which playback devices support playback of Dolby Vision 4K UHD Blu-ray full disc rips (in BDMV folder structure)?
Is it just the Oppo UDP-203 and clones or can some other Blu-ray players and media players also support full disc rips?
Thanks.
Is it just the Oppo UDP-203 and clones or can some other Blu-ray players and media players also support full disc rips?
Thanks.
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ArArdin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
RTD 1619 based Dune and Zidoo mediaplayers play UHDBD folders/ISOs.
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Kocal
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
sure. I use this method: with tsmuxer, add the heaviest m2ts file from the bluray and mux in m2ts. (maybe you can just copy the m2ts file from the bluray and put it on a usb stick, without using tsmuxerdompidu wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:03 am I have an LG G1 and Sony x700. Now, if I have a .iso of a 4K Bluray (dual layer DV), can I play it in its full glory by converting it to .m2ts (because .iso playback is not supported if I'm not mistaken)? If so, what is the exact process that I'd have to follow?
if you need subtitles, but don't want horrible subtitles, do this: add a srt file, go to the subtitles section, change font to size 20 (or what u want) and color to # 3a3a3a (or what u want). I use position between 88 (max position for black bar) and 0, change each time, to prevent burn in. Mux in blu-ray folder.
question: how can I play an mkv file dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU with lg cx and sony x700?
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chronomac
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Apologies if this has been asked before - I did a quick search and didn't see anything: is there a way to convert an MKV with a DV profile 7 layer to one with 8.4? As far as I know, Apple TV supports HDR10 and DV profiles 5 and 8.4 (HLG+DV metadata) but not 7. I do know that 7 is HDR10 based and 8.4 is HLG, but I'm willing to transcode if necessary.
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PlatypusW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
This won’t work if you want Dolby vision from my tests. Has to go through nightly tsmuxer first.Kocal wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:59 pmmaybe you can just copy the m2ts file from the bluray and put it on a usb stick, without using tsmuxerdompidu wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:03 am I have an LG G1 and Sony x700. Now, if I have a .iso of a 4K Bluray (dual layer DV), can I play it in its full glory by converting it to .m2ts (because .iso playback is not supported if I'm not mistaken)? If so, what is the exact process that I'd have to follow?idk. never tried
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dompidu
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Alright, thanks so much. When you say mux in bluray folder you mean only when adding subtitles?Kocal wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:59 pmsure. I use this method: with tsmuxer, add the heaviest m2ts file from the bluray and mux in m2ts. (maybe you can just copy the m2ts file from the bluray and put it on a usb stick, without using tsmuxerdompidu wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:03 am I have an LG G1 and Sony x700. Now, if I have a .iso of a 4K Bluray (dual layer DV), can I play it in its full glory by converting it to .m2ts (because .iso playback is not supported if I'm not mistaken)? If so, what is the exact process that I'd have to follow?idk. never tried.)
if you need subtitles, but don't want horrible subtitles, do this: add a srt file, go to the subtitles section, change font to size 20 (or what u want) and color to # 3a3a3a (or what u want). I use position between 88 (max position for black bar) and 0, change each time, to prevent burn in. Mux in blu-ray folder.
question: how can I play an mkv file dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU with lg cx and sony x700?
By the way, I found out that dvhe.05.06 is perfectly playable if in .mp4 through LG's Plex app. I guess this has already been talked about, but I'm happy it worked. Worked with S02E3 of The Witcher, but I supposed it's fine with others.
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Kocal
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I mux in blu-ray folder, but m2ts works fine with sub.dompidu wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:03 am Alright, thanks so much. When you say mux in bluray folder you mean only when adding subtitles?
By the way, I found out that dvhe.05.06 is perfectly playable if in .mp4 through LG's Plex app. I guess this has already been talked about, but I'm happy it worked. Worked with S02E3 of The Witcher, but I supposed it's fine with others.
Unfortunately, .mkv dvhe.05.06 doesn't work with plex.
update: solved! just convert .mkv to m2ts with tsmuxer, works fine on x700
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DolbyVisionFTW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posting this on behalf of someone else:
Anyone have experience with Zappiti (https://www.zappiti.com) or Zidoo (https://www.zidoo.tv) players regarding DV FEL support?
Zappiti claims to have FEL support: https://www.zappiti.com/zappiti-reference-dolby-vision
But sound support is lacking https://zappiti.uservoice.com/forums/31 ... by-true-hd
Also a discussion from the Zidoo forum http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ack.87108/
Seems like they can handle FEL but only utilize the RPU layer.
(Both Zappiti and Zidoo is based on Realtek RTD1619 and also found Dune HD https://www.dune-hd.com)
Or is the conclusion that Chinoppo is still the only player that properly support FEL playback?
Thanks.
Anyone have experience with Zappiti (https://www.zappiti.com) or Zidoo (https://www.zidoo.tv) players regarding DV FEL support?
Zappiti claims to have FEL support: https://www.zappiti.com/zappiti-reference-dolby-vision
But sound support is lacking https://zappiti.uservoice.com/forums/31 ... by-true-hd
Also a discussion from the Zidoo forum http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ack.87108/
Seems like they can handle FEL but only utilize the RPU layer.
(Both Zappiti and Zidoo is based on Realtek RTD1619 and also found Dune HD https://www.dune-hd.com)
Or is the conclusion that Chinoppo is still the only player that properly support FEL playback?
Thanks.
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thetoad
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
this is a little off topic, but libplacebo from videolan now has dolby vision profile 5 and 8 tone mapping support (I believe). Bluray's live in the profile 7 world, but I find this interesting overall.
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/libp ... quests/207
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/libp ... quests/207
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thetoad
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I believe that no one can decode FEL at the moment in MKV (oppo can decode bluray images). the ones that claim FEL support just means they don't choke on FEL.DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:18 am Posting this on behalf of someone else:
Anyone have experience with Zappiti (https://www.zappiti.com) or Zidoo (https://www.zidoo.tv) players regarding DV FEL support?
Zappiti claims to have FEL support: https://www.zappiti.com/zappiti-reference-dolby-vision
But sound support is lacking https://zappiti.uservoice.com/forums/31 ... by-true-hd
Also a discussion from the Zidoo forum http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ack.87108/
Seems like they can handle FEL but only utilize the RPU layer.
(Both Zappiti and Zidoo is based on Realtek RTD1619 and also found Dune HD https://www.dune-hd.com)
Or is the conclusion that Chinoppo is still the only player that properly support FEL playback?
Thanks.
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chros
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Amazing news, thanks @quietvoid for the contribution again!thetoad wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:38 pm this is a little off topic, but libplacebo from videolan now has dolby vision profile 5 and 8 tone mapping support (I believe). Bluray's live in the profile 7 world, but I find this interesting overall.
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/libp ... quests/207
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ArArdin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ugoos AM6+ has a 2nd decoder so is able to playback FEl (from dual track mp4) but it's a very buggy player.DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:18 amOr is the conclusion that Chinoppo is still the only player that properly support FEL playback?
You may want to ask yourself how many tv's support full 12 bit processing. And then yet, those 12bit colors will be downscaled within max luminance capacity of the screen. TBH, I think that nowadays tv's will not hit enough nits to even support 10 bit to its full brightness.
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DolbyVisionFTW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Thanks for the replies above guys. 
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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Even though Ugoos / Am6+ can display FEL titles they don’t have a Dolby Vision SDK so it isn’t actually accurate so a waste of time.ArArdin wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:34 pmUgoos AM6+ has a 2nd decoder so is able to playback FEl (from dual track mp4) but it's a very buggy player.DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:18 amOr is the conclusion that Chinoppo is still the only player that properly support FEL playback?
You may want to ask yourself how many tv's support full 12 bit processing. And then yet, those 12bit colors will be downscaled within max luminance capacity of the screen. TBH, I think that nowadays tv's will not hit enough nits to even support 10 bit to its full brightness.
Don’t forget a lo to of recent Fel titles have contained significant picture detail in the enhancement layer, it isn’t always just 2 bits of extra colour in the Fel layer.
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DolbyVisionFTW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Can either the Oppo 203 or 205 do anything the Sony X700 can't as far as DV BL+FEL+RPU? From what I've read, the Oppo supports ISO whereas the X700 only supports BDMV folders. I also read the X700 supports BDMV folders via USB only and not LAN. Not sure about the Oppo?
Thanks.
Thanks.