Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[bgalakazam]

I still find the easiest, fastest, and least painful solution for Dolby Vision and lossless audio to be the X700 with a tsMuxer mix. If you have a newer model with eARC - kudos. And it plays UHD Blurays. I do give the shield gigabit ethernet and the MKV lossless TrueHD.

[crashburn162]

Hello,

So I just downloaded Soul mixed in .mp4 with DV I can say it works fine without any hassle on LG Oled C9 with it's native player it turns on the DV and it's not a problem. The sound is lossy but since it's from a stream it's lossy non the less. Is there a way to do the loseless sound with DV if your TV has E-ARC ?

[akelu]

I still find the easiest, fastest, and least painful solution for Dolby Vision and lossless audio to be the X700 with a tsMuxer mix. If you have a newer model with eARC - kudos. And it plays UHD Blurays.

Can you elaborate on this? Googling didnt really give me the answers. Thanks.

[bgalakazam]

Can you elaborate on this? Googling didnt really give me the answers. Thanks.

- Open a UHD Bluray rip's main playlist file in tsMuxer.
- Mux to .ts (or .m2ts).
- Play the file via a network share or USB from your Sony X700 or your LG OLED.

If you have an LG OLED <=2018 like me, no lossless audio will be passed back to receiver. So I use the X700 for those titles. Also the PGS subs will not work, just use a .SRT in same folder if you need subs.

[RESET_9999]

Can you force P-led on X700+LG through Vertex thing?
If so you shouldn't rely on my pictures at all and can see difference by your own eyes

of course, if I could force lldv and see with my own eyes I would have posted a comparison a long time ago.
there's the LLDV Sony EDID option in my first gen Vertex but unfortunately, I'm not able to make it work. All I get is tv-led.

But i do not know why
tsMuxeR desynchronizes the audio with the video. = (

TsMuxer does not desynchronize the audio/video. I merged the Lord of The Rings movies in a single file. I watched all of them without any sync issue.
Tsmuxer is actually my favorite tool to mux seamless branching movie because it properly removes overlapping frames.

[Roberespa]

Can you force P-led on X700+LG through Vertex thing?
If so you shouldn't rely on my pictures at all and can see difference by your own eyes

of course, if I could force lldv and see with my own eyes I would have posted a comparison a long time ago.
there's the LLDV Sony EDID option in my first gen Vertex but unfortunately, I'm not able to make it work. All I get is tv-led.

But i do not know why
tsMuxeR desynchronizes the audio with the video. = (

TsMuxer does not desynchronize the audio/video. I merged the Lord of The Rings movies in a single file. I watched all of them without any sync issue.
Tsmuxer is actually my favorite tool to mux seamless branching movie because it properly removes overlapping frames.

Can you explain how you did it?

I have Disc 1 and Disc 2 in m2ts with Dolby Vision when I combine them with tsMuxeR, when Disc 2 (which is connected to Disc 1 + Disc 2) starts up the video audio is out of sync.

I open the "add" rings of tsMuxeR.
Then I click "join", add rings2, select M2TS, and start muxing.

As a result, when the second disc should start, the video gets out of sync with the audio.

Please help.

[RESET_9999]

Can you explain how you did it?

I have Disc 1 and Disc 2 in m2ts with Dolby Vision when I combine them with tsMuxeR, when Disc 2 (which is connected to Disc 1 + Disc 2) starts up the video audio is out of sync.

I open the "add" rings of tsMuxeR.
Then I click "join", add rings2, select M2TS, and start muxing.

As a result, when the second disc should start, the video gets out of sync with the audio.

Please help.

I always use the .mpls file(playlist folder) instead of the m2ts file so that might be the reason why.
Also, make sure that you use the latest nightly tsMuxer and not the old tsmuxer
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... htly#files

[RESET_9999]

Can you force P-led on X700+LG through Vertex thing?
If so you shouldn't rely on my pictures at all and can see difference by your own eyes

So after my latest reply, I decided to give another go to my Vertex. and btw I'm not relying on your picture at all.. I'm just saying that your comparisons with vincent's video means nothing and that you shouldn't rely on it
The firmware was a bit old so I updated it and now forcing lldv works.

I used content(p5 full range DV) that the Shield can actually play properly (not a uhd-bd rip so no red push affecting the output). On my LG C8, I don't really see any difference between the X700 p-led and the Shield p-led.

screenshot comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/9541

[blenky]

Been away from this thread for a few weeks so trying to catch up.

I understand that the latest MakeMKV (1.15.4) can now remux a MEL DV UHD Bluray.

For FEL a MEL needs to be created. Is the post below still the preferred method or has it been updated? Thanks

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 360#p97878

[kazuma]

can anybody upload a small DV-file of MKV? so we can test?

[Manixx2020beyound]

Can you force P-led on X700+LG through Vertex thing?
If so you shouldn't rely on my pictures at all and can see difference by your own eyes

So after my latest reply, I decided to give another go to my Vertex. and btw I'm not relying on your picture at all.. I'm just saying that your comparisons with vincent's video means nothing and that you shouldn't rely on it
The firmware was a bit old so I updated it and now forcing lldv works.

I used content(p5 full range DV) that the Shield can actually play properly (not a uhd-bd rip so no red push affecting the output). On my LG C8, I don't really see any difference between the X700 p-led and the Shield p-led.

screenshot comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/9541

Can u do a Soul comparison with the real dv rgb dv-8bit? just for fun.
From both playback devices.
Curious too see on your calibrated c8 to see
If differences of dual tone mapping can be observed LLDV vs rgb 8 like Vincent showed.

[Roberespa]

Can you explain how you did it?

I have Disc 1 and Disc 2 in m2ts with Dolby Vision when I combine them with tsMuxeR, when Disc 2 (which is connected to Disc 1 + Disc 2) starts up the video audio is out of sync.

I open the "add" rings of tsMuxeR.
Then I click "join", add rings2, select M2TS, and start muxing.

As a result, when the second disc should start, the video gets out of sync with the audio.

Please help.

I always use the .mpls file(playlist folder) instead of the m2ts file so that might be the reason why.
Also, make sure that you use the latest nightly tsMuxer and not the old tsmuxer
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... htly#files

Updated program tsMuxeR 2020-12-29 Nightly (x64)
I have done it again as you indicated. I took the .mpls from disk 1 and disk 2 and created a m2ts.
Again there is desynchronization
of the audio with the video just when disc two would enter, as I mentioned.

[MartyMcNuts]

Can you explain how you did it?

I have Disc 1 and Disc 2 in m2ts with Dolby Vision when I combine them with tsMuxeR, when Disc 2 (which is connected to Disc 1 + Disc 2) starts up the video audio is out of sync.

I open the "add" rings of tsMuxeR.
Then I click "join", add rings2, select M2TS, and start muxing.

As a result, when the second disc should start, the video gets out of sync with the audio.

Please help.

I always use the .mpls file(playlist folder) instead of the m2ts file so that might be the reason why.
Also, make sure that you use the latest nightly tsMuxer and not the old tsmuxer
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... htly#files

Updated program tsMuxeR 2020-12-29 Nightly (x64)
I have done it again as you indicated. I took the .mpls from disk 1 and disk 2 and created a m2ts.
Again there is desynchronization
of the audio with the video just when disc two would enter, as I mentioned.

Don't join the movies together. Keep them separate.

[RESET_9999]

Updated program tsMuxeR 2020-12-29 Nightly (x64)
I have done it again as you indicated. I took the .mpls from disk 1 and disk 2 and created a m2ts.
Again there is desynchronization
of the audio with the video just when disc two would enter, as I mentioned.

I dont know. The 3 movies are perfectly in sync on my end. both the x700 and on my pc. what media player do you use ?
I did the extended version if that make a difference. Also, i did it a couple weeks ago, so not really the latest tsmuxer version.. Maybe a bug introduced in the latest version?

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Complete name                            : D:\The.Lord.of.the.Rings.1.The.Fellowship.of.the.Ring.2001.DV.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 122 GiB
Duration                                 : 3 h 48 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 76.6 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video #1
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Maximum Content Light Level              : 602 cd/m2
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Color range                              : Limited
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Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

Audio #1
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Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

[pete19]

Can you force P-led on X700+LG through Vertex thing?
If so you shouldn't rely on my pictures at all and can see difference by your own eyes

So after my latest reply, I decided to give another go to my Vertex. and btw I'm not relying on your picture at all.. I'm just saying that your comparisons with vincent's video means nothing and that you shouldn't rely on it
The firmware was a bit old so I updated it and now forcing lldv works.

I used content(p5 full range DV) that the Shield can actually play properly (not a uhd-bd rip so no red push affecting the output). On my LG C8, I don't really see any difference between the X700 p-led and the Shield p-led.

screenshot comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/9541

you need to use p7 with FEL in order to see differences - because the "problem" occurs when the EL is merged with the BL, and in LLDV this is done by the player/source and it won't be as accurate as tv-led

p5 does not have EL