Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Roberespa
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:07 am
Roberespa wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:31 pm I have tried to create the Lord of the Rings with all the possible forms that are offered to me in the forum, the only one that worked was mp4.
With it I have Dolby Vision.

Just one more thing (if you are so kind to answer me):
Hevc1 and hevc2 can be merged directly from the system symbol to .mkv

If so, please send me the command. I'm desperate.

Thank you very much in advance.

Sincerely:
-Rober.
Hi, you don’t say what your playback device is?
TLOTR and The Hobbit are MEL so the easiest way to create Dolby Vision MKV is Makemkv.
Inside the LG menu.
The television model says:
OLED55B6V-Z
and at the end an interesting fact.
Dolby Vision 0.9.0

I also tried MakeMKV v1.15.3 but the TV won't open it.
Demomento only worked (opened it) with Dolby Vision in .mp4

Thanks for answering me.
I wait your answer.

I don't know if the problem will be the file size ... = (
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Post by RESET_9999 »

Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:46 am Inside the LG menu.
The television model says:
OLED55B6V-Z
and at the end an interesting fact.
Dolby Vision 0.9.0

I also tried MakeMKV v1.15.3 but the TV won't open it.
Demomento only worked (opened it) with Dolby Vision in .mp4

Thanks for answering me.
I wait your answer.

I don't know if the problem will be the file size ... = (
you don't need a ts/mkv file if you play them in your LG B6. stick with the mp4muxer.
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:07 am
Hi, you don’t say what your playback device is?
TLOTR and The Hobbit are MEL so the easiest way to create Dolby Vision MKV is Makemkv.
LOTR are [s] FEL DV [/s]
Last edited by RESET_9999 on Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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lexyz wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:26 pm
Doosethemoose wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:01 pm Sony X900f
Is there a lossless way to get my TV to properly display DV profile 7 content?
Sadly not possible. XF90 plays properly only DoVi p5

XH90 is the only Sony TV plays DoVi 5, 7 MEL and 8
what do you mean "only sony tv", if an external device plays profile7 mkv the tv displays what the external device sends
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Post by lexyz »

userr wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:00 pm what do you mean "only sony tv", if an external device plays profile7 mkv the tv displays what the external device sends
I mean dolby vision playback by internal TV Media player or Plex without external device
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DaMacFunkin »

Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:46 am
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:07 am
Roberespa wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:31 pm I have tried to create the Lord of the Rings with all the possible forms that are offered to me in the forum, the only one that worked was mp4.
With it I have Dolby Vision.

Just one more thing (if you are so kind to answer me):
Hevc1 and hevc2 can be merged directly from the system symbol to .mkv

If so, please send me the command. I'm desperate.

Thank you very much in advance.

Sincerely:
-Rober.
Hi, you don’t say what your playback device is?
TLOTR and The Hobbit are MEL so the easiest way to create Dolby Vision MKV is Makemkv.
Inside the LG menu.
The television model says:
OLED55B6V-Z
and at the end an interesting fact.
Dolby Vision 0.9.0

I also tried MakeMKV v1.15.3 but the TV won't open it.
Demomento only worked (opened it) with Dolby Vision in .mp4

Thanks for answering me.
I wait your answer.

I don't know if the problem will be the file size ... = (
Your tv will not play DV from mkv.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DaMacFunkin »

RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:05 pm
Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:46 am Inside the LG menu.
The television model says:
OLED55B6V-Z
and at the end an interesting fact.
Dolby Vision 0.9.0

I also tried MakeMKV v1.15.3 but the TV won't open it.
Demomento only worked (opened it) with Dolby Vision in .mp4

Thanks for answering me.
I wait your answer.

I don't know if the problem will be the file size ... = (
you don't need a ts/mkv file if you play them in your LG B6. stick with the mp4muxer.
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:07 am
Hi, you don’t say what your playback device is?
TLOTR and The Hobbit are MEL so the easiest way to create Dolby Vision MKV is Makemkv.
LOTR are FEL DV
Sorry only ripped The Hobbits upto now and they are MEL, blu-ray.com listed TLOTR as MEL also so didn’t have a reason to question it.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Roberespa »

What you say about my TV:
LG OLED55B6V
That Dolby Vision does not play without being in .mp4 "is false".

This file taken from a test website shows that my TV is capable of opening Dolby Vision, at least in .ts format

I attach the link:
https://uptobox.com/q0tk0wifzm5f

Returning to my question. Is there a command to merge Hevc1 and hevc2 from the "cmd" command prompt and give me a .mkv or .ts video file?

Thank you so much everyone.
Waiting for your reply.
userr
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by userr »

DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:07 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:05 pm
Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:46 am Inside the LG menu.
The television model says:
OLED55B6V-Z
and at the end an interesting fact.
Dolby Vision 0.9.0

I also tried MakeMKV v1.15.3 but the TV won't open it.
Demomento only worked (opened it) with Dolby Vision in .mp4

Thanks for answering me.
I wait your answer.

I don't know if the problem will be the file size ... = (
you don't need a ts/mkv file if you play them in your LG B6. stick with the mp4muxer.
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:07 am
Hi, you don’t say what your playback device is?
TLOTR and The Hobbit are MEL so the easiest way to create Dolby Vision MKV is Makemkv.
LOTR are FEL DV
Sorry only ripped The Hobbits upto now and they are MEL, blu-ray.com listed TLOTR as MEL also so didn’t have a reason to question it.
How do we even know if its "MEL" or "FEL" when theres a bitrate of roughly 2Mb/s like in LOTR?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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userr wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:00 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:07 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:05 pm

you don't need a ts/mkv file if you play them in your LG B6. stick with the mp4muxer.



LOTR are FEL DV
Sorry only ripped The Hobbits upto now and they are MEL, blu-ray.com listed TLOTR as MEL also so didn’t have a reason to question it.
How do we even know if its "MEL" or "FEL" when theres a bitrate of roughly 2Mb/s like in LOTR?
MEL movies bitrate are in 100kbps or less.
also a scan with BDinfo will tell you. Makemkv tells you that info too.

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 1:46:39.184
Size: 70,767,261,696 bytes
Total Bitrate: 88.47 Mbps

Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 64757 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2098 kbps (3.14%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
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Marvin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Marvin »

~2Mbit/s FEL is in fact MEL that is padded. It can be easily verified when using tools to extract the EL+RPU and looking at it in an hex editor. Or even better, try compressing that "FEL" layer and in case of LOTR the 2GB+ file will compress to about 6MB.

More information about the 2Mbit padding is in the first post of https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

What is strange is that LOTR is padded MEL to 2Mbit/s but Hobbits are pure MEL with no padding.
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RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:32 pm
userr wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:00 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:07 pm
Sorry only ripped The Hobbits upto now and they are MEL, blu-ray.com listed TLOTR as MEL also so didn’t have a reason to question it.
How do we even know if its "MEL" or "FEL" when theres a bitrate of roughly 2Mb/s like in LOTR?
MEL movies bitrate are in 100kbps or less.
also a scan with BDinfo will tell you. Makemkv tells you that info too.

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 1:46:39.184
Size: 70,767,261,696 bytes
Total Bitrate: 88.47 Mbps

Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 64757 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2098 kbps (3.14%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
makemkv lists LOTR as BL+MEL+RPU
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LOTR 1 at least is MEL, the values in the RPU coincide with what Dolby says to recognize MEL.
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userr wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:48 pm

makemkv lists LOTR as BL+MEL+RPU
well, BDinfo is probably more accurate because it scans the whole movie bitrate. Makemkv thought the Spears and Munsil DV file were both MEL too.
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quietvoid wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:05 pm LOTR 1 at least is MEL, the values in the RPU coincide with what Dolby says to recognize MEL.
strange Bdinfo say its FEL.
I thought the point of using MEL, was to not take more space on the disc. But the MEL track on the Spears and munsill is also in the 2mb/s if I remember correctly. I don't think I ever noticed a mel movie with more than 100kbps bitrate

Disc Title: The.Lord.of.the.Rings.The.Fellowship.of.the.Ring.2001.DISC1
Disc Size: 73,422,813,471 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 1:45:43.378
Size: 72,402,579,456 bytes
Total Bitrate: 91.31 Mbps

Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 67684 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2099 kbps (3.01%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
Last edited by RESET_9999 on Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:55 pm
That Dolby Vision does not play without being in .mp4 "is false".

No one said that. We are telling you that if your playback device is the LG B6, your best option is dual layer MP4
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