Forced subtitles

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leosantare
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Re: Forced subtitles

Post by leosantare »

Something is wrong, it won't let me attach an image again. What is the problem with this?!?
DukeFleed
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Re: Forced subtitles

Post by DukeFleed »

Okay so with mkvtoolnix, I create a new mkv and if it's the way I want it, I can delete the old one, correct?
Yes.

Can you post some screen shots on what to do in mkvtoolnix for this particular title? I don't know how to use mkvtoolnix whatsoever.
There is no need, as you have seen it is quite intuitive.

I can't even download mkvtoolnix. I tried to but ended up installing PC app store on my PC. Every time I try to download mkvtoolnix, it wants to download the damn PC app store instead, nonsense. Please post a direct link.
I download and install Mkvtoolnix from an Arch Linux repository (EndeavourOS, the distribution I use, is a derivative of it), so I can't help you.

Again, for whatever reason, the forced subs for this mkv do not show up in mkvtoolnix or VLC as a track. Instead, the forced subs are displayed automatically. There is no way to turn them on/off. Essentially, I can remove all (4) sub tracks from this mkv and the forced sub will still be displayed by default. It's as if I can't remove them from the mkv. Do you understand?
I finally figured out why forced subtitles can't be turned off. In my 1200+ titles (DVD and Blu-ray) I've never had this happen, except maybe for Avatar, but I should watch it again. In practice, in your movie in question that I don't know, forced subtitles are hardcoded, they are embedded in the video, and they can't be turned off, they are always active, and you can't do anything about it.

So the only thing you can do for this movie is: load the .mkv file in Mkvtoolnix, select the only subtitle track (i.e. the main subtitles), and in the box on the right put NO to the default flag. Save the file.


In the future, for a .mkv file that has forced subtitles on a separate track, do this in Mkvtoolnix: for main subtitles set the default flag to NO, and for forced subtitles set the forced flag to YES.
leosantare
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Re: Forced subtitles

Post by leosantare »

Okay, thank you. I think I'm 97% there.

Please confirm, for the main sub track that I want. (again, I will only have (1) main sub track for each mkv and don't want them to appear in VLC by default. I want to have to turn them on in VLC for them to appear)
default track flag YES/NO
track enabled flag YES/NO
forced display flag YES/NO

Please confirm, for the forced sub track that I want. (again, I will only have (1) forced sub track for each mkv, if available. I want them to be enabled by default)
default track flag YES/NO
track enabled flag YES/NO
forced display flag YES/NO

If you remember, originally, I selected all (8) English subtitles for 2012 in makemkv. Why do only (4) sub tracks show up in mkvtoolnix and VLC?
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