LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

[Coopervid]

All well meant but I have sent information to make his drive UHD capable. No chance w/o flashing to UHD.

Hmm I thought drive without UHD capable firmware will not "see" UHD disc when inserted? Or do you mean some UHD firmware is bugged or so?

I have sent information to make his drive UHD capable.

[tomty89]

All well meant but I have sent information to make his drive UHD capable. No chance w/o flashing to UHD.

Hmm I thought drive without UHD capable firmware will not "see" UHD disc when inserted? Or do you mean some UHD firmware is bugged or so?

I have sent information to make his drive UHD capable.

Not really sure what you mean but what I meant was:

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Disc Information
Label: GET_OUT
Timestamp: 2017-06-28 08:14:37
Protection: AACS2.0/C v61
Data capacity: 60.59 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 2
Bus encryption flags: 80

Doesn't that mean his drive is / was already UHD capable? (Even though it has only two layers -- but more than 50GB)

Besides, BDR-S12J-X is supposed to be an official UHD model anyway, AFAIK.

[Billycar11]

This one here:

Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S12JX
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: AIDL006471WL
Firmware date: 2020-07-21
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 61

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F01
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01/ID72
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Disc Information
Label: GET_OUT
Timestamp: 2017-06-28 08:14:37
Protection: AACS2.0/C v61
Data capacity: 60.59 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 2
Bus encryption flags: 80

Should work as is

[biturbeh]

My drive is listed above but it doesn't appear to be supported yet. This is the model information as it appears on MakeMKV:

Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/rdisk6
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD04
Revision: 1.14
Serial number: CHDL115607WL
Firmware date: 2020-06-15
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 82

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8A10
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-US04
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.14
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Thank you!

[Billycar11]

My drive is listed above but it doesn't appear to be supported yet. This is the model information as it appears on MakeMKV:

Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/rdisk6
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD04
Revision: 1.14
Serial number: CHDL115607WL
Firmware date: 2020-06-15
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 82

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8A10
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-US04
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.14
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Thank you!

Should work as is
If you have volume key unknown see UHD disc section and look for keydb

[MrPenguin]

My drive is listed above but it doesn't appear to be supported yet. This is the model information as it appears on MakeMKV:

Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/rdisk6
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD04
Revision: 1.14
Serial number: CHDL115607WL
Firmware date: 2020-06-15
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 82

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
...

Ah, the Goode Olde Verbatim 43888, Pioneer model! This UHD drive should work "out of the box" with MakeMKV, without needing to have its firmware updated first. After all, MakeMKV does[/] already say that LibreDrive is enabled .

[drknight71]

All non-UHD drives flashed for UHD might say that they are BEE enabled but they "lie". The chip to do so is missing.

This 211 should be used internally. If you want to rule out the root cause you should get a Benfei USB -> SATA adapter like this. If it works with that your enclosures don't support all functions. Why this happens with this 211 I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/BENFEI-Drive-Ada ... 9hdGY&th=1

Thank you for the information. Was wondering why my old 211M 1.54 firmware was acting weird with non UHD disks. Ordering the Sata USB adapter. Thank you.

PS: Can you please share if there is a firmware that will cross flash on the 1.54 to something else more friendly?

I have the BDR flash utility already with 1.53 firmware but don't think that will work.

Thanks

[drknight71]

All non-UHD drives flashed for UHD might say that they are BEE enabled but they "lie". The chip to do so is missing.

This 211 should be used internally. If you want to rule out the root cause you should get a Benfei USB -> SATA adapter like this. If it works with that your enclosures don't support all functions. Why this happens with this 211 I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/BENFEI-Drive-Ada ... 9hdGY&th=1

What about this one. Its a Benfei usb adapter but this one has external power support:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JG ... XLEXM&th=1

[nicholfd]

All non-UHD drives flashed for UHD might say that they are BEE enabled but they "lie". The chip to do so is missing.

This 211 should be used internally. If you want to rule out the root cause you should get a Benfei USB -> SATA adapter like this. If it works with that your enclosures don't support all functions. Why this happens with this 211 I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/BENFEI-Drive-Ada ... 9hdGY&th=1

What about this one. Its a Benfei usb adapter but this one has external power support:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JG ... XLEXM&th=1

It's not necessarily about power (power does matter) - it's about the USB -> SATA chipset & how completely/accurately it impliments the SATA standard. You won't find that listed in any specs. Must try/test with the adapter. And then, some Mfg's make design changes without changing model number (Archgon), and what was tested & did work, newer manufactured ones may not work.

If the adapter with power has the same USB-SATA design/implementation, then it *should* be ok, or even better with the additional power.

Thanks,
Frank

[notes4me]

Hi all,

I have two Pioneer drives which both do not detect UHD Blu-rays:

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.55
Serial number: removed
Firmware date: 2023-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8600
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-209
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.55/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: removed
Firmware date: 2022-10-13
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID61
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

The BDR-S09 should be capable of, but for the BDR-212D I'm not sure.

[Billycar11]

Hi all,

I have two Pioneer drives which both do not detect UHD Blu-rays:

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.55
Serial number: removed
Firmware date: 2023-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8600
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-209
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.55/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: removed
Firmware date: 2022-10-13
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID61
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

The BDR-S09 should be capable of, but for the BDR-212D I'm not sure.

sure email me that info
and all others email me no need to post your info here publicly just reach out to me directly
see below for email

[drknight71]

All non-UHD drives flashed for UHD might say that they are BEE enabled but they "lie". The chip to do so is missing.

This 211 should be used internally. If you want to rule out the root cause you should get a Benfei USB -> SATA adapter like this. If it works with that your enclosures don't support all functions. Why this happens with this 211 I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/BENFEI-Drive-Ada ... 9hdGY&th=1

What about this one. Its a Benfei usb adapter but this one has external power support:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JG ... XLEXM&th=1

It's not necessarily about power (power does matter) - it's about the USB -> SATA chipset & how completely/accurately it impliments the SATA standard. You won't find that listed in any specs. Must try/test with the adapter. And then, some Mfg's make design changes without changing model number (Archgon), and what was tested & did work, newer manufactured ones may not work.

If the adapter with power has the same USB-SATA design/implementation, then it *should* be ok, or even better with the additional power.

Thanks,
Frank

Wanted to confirm after using the Benfei adapter today so far no errors with the 211M Pioneer drive.