Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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quietvoid
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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chros wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:46 am
Can we playback single layer DV (profile 5) mkv (!) with Firestick4k? If so, how? Thanks
Yes you can, with Kodi (https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=360018) or Plex.
There is also a demo ExoPlayer app but it has to be launched from Kodi and requires a specific config for that.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:47 am

Hi @RESET_9999 , it's strange to me that playback of the test ST DL FEL.ts file stops after 5 seconds. Also it can only be played by Plex not Emby, wich more compatible with DV files in every profile.

¿Is it something to take into account? I supose it's caused because of peculiarities of this file, but can you provide a mkv file to test again. Tanks in advance.
mkv DV ST FEL test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KV7lqA ... sp=sharing
mp4 DV ST FEL test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AYrRZo ... sp=sharing

If I remember correctly all the samples play fine on my x700, so I don't know why it stops after 5sec on the Chromecast. yes, it could be because it's not the right EL or because of the splitting. Also, I don't know if this can make a difference but I used the yusesope tool to create the sample and not makemkv.
Please forgive my English.
Sony x700 ----> Denon AVR ----> LG OLED C8
FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
yossSP
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:14 pm
yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:47 am

Hi @RESET_9999 , it's strange to me that playback of the test ST DL FEL.ts file stops after 5 seconds. Also it can only be played by Plex not Emby, wich more compatible with DV files in every profile.

¿Is it something to take into account? I supose it's caused because of peculiarities of this file, but can you provide a mkv file to test again. Tanks in advance.
mkv DV ST FEL test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KV7lqA ... sp=sharing
mp4 DV ST FEL test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AYrRZo ... sp=sharing

If I remember correctly all the samples play fine on my x700, so I don't know why it stops after 5sec on the Chromecast. yes, it could be because it's not the right EL or because of the splitting. Also, I don't know if this can make a difference but I used the yusesope tool to create the sample and not makemkv.
Thanks @RESET_9999 , with both files now Emby playback in Dolby Vision with noise, so processing the FEL layer, and now after 5 seconds it stutters and change to HDR, but don't stops. In Plex both files run as the .ts one, it stops after 5 seconds. From what I see this has no more significance.

From my eyes, the rendering quality in any HDR mode is fantastic but in Dolby Vision with MEL or FEL is superb.

And one last question, passing this test can we assure that this device is fully using the FEL layer as it should?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

And one last question, passing this test can we assure that this device is fully using the FEL layer as it should?
yep, it confirms that your device is processing the FEL and not ignoring it like the Shield and the LG CX. If it's processing it properly is another question.
You can also test Total Recall at 43minutes. The HDR10 base layer is poorly encoded and only FEL DV can save it.
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 15#p104166
Please forgive my English.
Sony x700 ----> Denon AVR ----> LG OLED C8
FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:03 pm
yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

And one last question, passing this test can we assure that this device is fully using the FEL layer as it should?
yep, it confirms that your device is processing the FEL and not ignoring it like the Shield and the LG CX. If it's processing it properly is another question.
You can also test Total Recall at 43minutes. The HDR10 base layer is poorly encoded and only FEL DV can save it.
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 15#p104166
5 seconds,
Yes the test was the new version, colors were saturated before the update
Plus u need plex pass on this device to play hdr, plus it’s LLDV only
The device does drop frames sometimes not very noticeable
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:03 pm
yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

And one last question, passing this test can we assure that this device is fully using the FEL layer as it should?
yep, it confirms that your device is processing the FEL and not ignoring it like the Shield and the LG CX. If it's processing it properly is another question.
You can also test Total Recall at 43minutes. The HDR10 base layer is poorly encoded and only FEL DV can save it.
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 15#p104166
Ok, thanks, it's a good begining at last :)
yossSP
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:43 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:03 pm
yossSP wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

And one last question, passing this test can we assure that this device is fully using the FEL layer as it should?
yep, it confirms that your device is processing the FEL and not ignoring it like the Shield and the LG CX. If it's processing it properly is another question.
You can also test Total Recall at 43minutes. The HDR10 base layer is poorly encoded and only FEL DV can save it.
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 15#p104166
5 seconds,
Yes the test was the new version, colors were saturated before the update
Plus u need plex pass on this device to play hdr, plus it’s LLDV only
The device does drop frames sometimes not very noticeable 1BBBF90D-893E-4EE6-ADEF-9195E296DA1B.jpeg
Thanks for your answer @Manixx2020beyound.
I've got Plex beta without Plexpass and it renders every HDR, I believe that the Plexpass is only needed for HDR to SDR Tone Mapping.
Since the february update I can't see any frame drop in any playback, with high bandwith files.

How do you guess the new Chromecast with Google TV is LLDV only? is very difficult to obtain DV info about this device...

And, can you explain what are the consequences of this LLDV only processing?
The image quality I observe is really good, and I think I've got a good eye for this, but I can't compare with nothing.

Thanks in advance :)
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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He has the HDfury Vertex which can tell if it's lldv or tv-led DV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4
Please forgive my English.
Sony x700 ----> Denon AVR ----> LG OLED C8
FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
chros
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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quietvoid wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:56 pm
chros wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:46 am
Can we playback single layer DV (profile 5) mkv (!) with Firestick4k? If so, how? Thanks
Yes you can, with Kodi (https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=360018) or Plex.
There is also a demo ExoPlayer app but it has to be launched from Kodi and requires a specific config for that.
Thank You, Kodi works great (although I had to install an NFS server on Win10 to get acces to files, smb didn't work from Kodi for whatever reason).
And thanks all the work You did as well with these DV projects!
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Hi there, I could not get SMB working on Kodi 19 either. I am using the DV modified Kodi and it works like a charm on Nvidia Shield for both MEL and FEL MKV DV files.

What program have you used for NFS sharing on Windows 10 ? I could not get it to fully work - I was able to visualize the files on Kodi via NFS share, but they would not play...
chros
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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afss_br wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:54 pm
Hi there, I could not get SMB working on Kodi 19 either. I am using the DV modified Kodi and it works like a charm on Nvidia Shield for both MEL and FEL MKV DV files.

What program have you used for NFS sharing on Windows 10 ? I could not get it to fully work - I was able to visualize the files on Kodi via NFS share, but they would not play...
WinNFSd command line util, and I had to specify an alias and set the adress manually in Kodi.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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I've tested the Ugoos AM6 Plus media player (Amlogic S922X-J), and it seems, the internal player correctly processing the Full Enhancement Layer from DTDL mp4 file!
https://youtu.be/RYeLEYk_Bys

I'm tried with Kodi 19 custom build and working same with the P7 STDL mkv too!
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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NiCE77 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:46 pm
I've tested the Ugoos AM6 Plus media player (Amlogic S922X-J), and it seems, the internal player correctly processing the Full Enhancement Layer from DTDL mp4 file!
https://youtu.be/RYeLEYk_Bys

I'm tried with Kodi 19 custom build and working same with the P7 STDL mkv too!
thanks for confirming! very interesting...
does it support lossless audio as well? frame rate match?
Please forgive my English.
Sony x700 ----> Denon AVR ----> LG OLED C8
FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
NiCE77
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:22 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:46 pm
I've tested the Ugoos AM6 Plus media player (Amlogic S922X-J), and it seems, the internal player correctly processing the Full Enhancement Layer from DTDL mp4 file!
https://youtu.be/RYeLEYk_Bys

I'm tried with Kodi 19 custom build and working same with the P7 STDL mkv too!
thanks for confirming! very interesting...
does it support lossless audio as well? frame rate match?
Yes, both :)
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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NiCE77 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:43 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:22 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:46 pm
I've tested the Ugoos AM6 Plus media player (Amlogic S922X-J), and it seems, the internal player correctly processing the Full Enhancement Layer from DTDL mp4 file!
https://youtu.be/RYeLEYk_Bys

I'm tried with Kodi 19 custom build and working same with the P7 STDL mkv too!
thanks for confirming! very interesting...
does it support lossless audio as well? frame rate match?
Yes, both :)
have you also tried Plex since it should already be supporting P7 STDL mkvs?
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