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D3619 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:31 pm Hello everyone,

I got a question regarding Pioneer drives. In the last few weeks I got a hand on 8 Pioneer drives in external ASUS enclosures, 4 of them are BDR-209MBK and 4 of them should be BDR-212T according to MakeMkv. The BDR-209MBK were flashed by me to the S11J and the BDR-212T to BDR-S12U.

If I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher the BDR-209MBK are listed as 209MBK with drive platform RS8800, in MakeMkv they appear after the flash as a S11.

But if I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher for the BDR-212T they are all listed as BDR-209MBK too, but with an other drive platform (RS8F01). In MakeMkv they appear all as RS8F01 too, product is not the BDR-S12U, Firmware name is BDR-212T. All of them were manufactured between August 2023 and August 2024.

According to some research in this forum RS8F01 is the newer platform for BDR-S12U and BDR-212.

I shucked one of the drives with a BDR-212T in it and the drive is a BDR-209MBK like the flasher said.

So is it indeed a BDR-209MBK with firmware of the BDR-212?

Best, D3619

D3619 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:31 pm Hello everyone,

I got a question regarding Pioneer drives. In the last few weeks I got a hand on 8 Pioneer drives in external ASUS enclosures, 4 of them are BDR-209MBK and 4 of them should be BDR-212T according to MakeMkv. The BDR-209MBK were flashed by me to the S11J and the BDR-212T to BDR-S12U.

If I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher the BDR-209MBK are listed as 209MBK with drive platform RS8800, in MakeMkv they appear after the flash as a S11.

But if I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher for the BDR-212T they are all listed as BDR-209MBK too, but with an other drive platform (RS8F01). In MakeMkv they appear all as RS8F01 too, product is not the BDR-S12U, Firmware name is BDR-212T. All of them were manufactured between August 2023 and August 2024.

According to some research in this forum RS8F01 is the newer platform for BDR-S12U and BDR-212.

I shucked one of the drives with a BDR-212T in it and the drive is a BDR-209MBK like the flasher said.

So is it indeed a BDR-209MBK with firmware of the BDR-212?

Best, D3619

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Coopervid wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:49 pm

D3619 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:31 pm Hello everyone,

I got a question regarding Pioneer drives. In the last few weeks I got a hand on 8 Pioneer drives in external ASUS enclosures, 4 of them are BDR-209MBK and 4 of them should be BDR-212T according to MakeMkv. The BDR-209MBK were flashed by me to the S11J and the BDR-212T to BDR-S12U.

If I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher the BDR-209MBK are listed as 209MBK with drive platform RS8800, in MakeMkv they appear after the flash as a S11.

But if I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher for the BDR-212T they are all listed as BDR-209MBK too, but with an other drive platform (RS8F01). In MakeMkv they appear all as RS8F01 too, product is not the BDR-S12U, Firmware name is BDR-212T. All of them were manufactured between August 2023 and August 2024.

According to some research in this forum RS8F01 is the newer platform for BDR-S12U and BDR-212.

I shucked one of the drives with a BDR-212T in it and the drive is a BDR-209MBK like the flasher said.

So is it indeed a BDR-209MBK with firmware of the BDR-212?

Best, D3619

No. Some 212s are sold as 209s. You just look at the hardware platform. 209s are either 8600 or 8601. To flash them you need the appropriate firmware 8800 or 8801. 212s are either 8F00 or 8F01. Both can be flashed to UHD with the 8F01 firmware.

Firmware on the drives must be older than Dec. 2022.

Coopervid wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:49 pm

D3619 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:31 pm Hello everyone,

I got a question regarding Pioneer drives. In the last few weeks I got a hand on 8 Pioneer drives in external ASUS enclosures, 4 of them are BDR-209MBK and 4 of them should be BDR-212T according to MakeMkv. The BDR-209MBK were flashed by me to the S11J and the BDR-212T to BDR-S12U.

If I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher the BDR-209MBK are listed as 209MBK with drive platform RS8800, in MakeMkv they appear after the flash as a S11.

But if I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher for the BDR-212T they are all listed as BDR-209MBK too, but with an other drive platform (RS8F01). In MakeMkv they appear all as RS8F01 too, product is not the BDR-S12U, Firmware name is BDR-212T. All of them were manufactured between August 2023 and August 2024.

According to some research in this forum RS8F01 is the newer platform for BDR-S12U and BDR-212.

I shucked one of the drives with a BDR-212T in it and the drive is a BDR-209MBK like the flasher said.

So is it indeed a BDR-209MBK with firmware of the BDR-212?

Best, D3619

No. Some 212s are sold as 209s. You just look at the hardware platform. 209s are either 8600 or 8601. To flash them you need the appropriate firmware 8800 or 8801. 212s are either 8F00 or 8F01. Both can be flashed to UHD with the 8F01 firmware.

Firmware on the drives must be older than Dec. 2022.

yodalf wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 1:39 pm Hi guys,

I've got the following drive:

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Drive Information
Manufacturer: ASUS
Product: BW-16D1H-U
Revision: E116
Serial number: xxxx
Firmware date: 2020-07-21
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 82

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Platform Drive: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: E116/ID71
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Is this drive capable of getting crossflashed to support UHD discs? Thanks in advance for any help.

D3619 wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 1:28 pm

Coopervid wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:49 pm

D3619 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 12:31 pm Hello everyone,

I got a question regarding Pioneer drives. In the last few weeks I got a hand on 8 Pioneer drives in external ASUS enclosures, 4 of them are BDR-209MBK and 4 of them should be BDR-212T according to MakeMkv. The BDR-209MBK were flashed by me to the S11J and the BDR-212T to BDR-S12U.

If I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher the BDR-209MBK are listed as 209MBK with drive platform RS8800, in MakeMkv they appear after the flash as a S11.

But if I take a look into the device information provided by the flasher for the BDR-212T they are all listed as BDR-209MBK too, but with an other drive platform (RS8F01). In MakeMkv they appear all as RS8F01 too, product is not the BDR-S12U, Firmware name is BDR-212T. All of them were manufactured between August 2023 and August 2024.

According to some research in this forum RS8F01 is the newer platform for BDR-S12U and BDR-212.

I shucked one of the drives with a BDR-212T in it and the drive is a BDR-209MBK like the flasher said.

So is it indeed a BDR-209MBK with firmware of the BDR-212?

Best, D3619

No. Some 212s are sold as 209s. You just look at the hardware platform. 209s are either 8600 or 8601. To flash them you need the appropriate firmware 8800 or 8801. 212s are either 8F00 or 8F01. Both can be flashed to UHD with the 8F01 firmware.

Firmware on the drives must be older than Dec. 2022.

There is one more question I have now:

My other BDR-209MBK are drive platform RS8800. So there are at least 3 generations of Pioneer drives sold as 209s? 8600/8601, 8800/8801 and 8F00/8F01?

And 8600/8601 is equivalent to BDR-209 (real 209s)?
8800/8801 is equivalent to BDR-211?
And 8F00/8F01 is equivalent to BDR-212 according to your post.

thirdbyte406 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:37 pm Hello, I recently acquired a Pioneer BDR-212DBK drive with the following firmware info in MakeMKV:

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Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: TJDL026030WL
Firmware date: 2019-01-10
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 12

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.00/ID61
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

I wanted to know if there was a guide on how to cross-flash these directly myself if that was possible?
As I have seen that billy offers this as a remote service specifically if you do not want to but I wondered if a type of software for flashing Pioneers exists alongside the specific firmware files needed?

Thank you.