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How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#1 Post by plutoscarab » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:52 pm

I have some 4K UHD backup images (decrypted). How can I tell if the HDR is Dolby Vision? For example, this one says its Dolby Vision and this is what I see in MediaInfo on the biggest stream file. I was maybe expecting to see Dolby Vision on the "HDR format" line.
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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#2 Post by MartyMcNuts » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:22 am

plutoscarab wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:52 pm
I have some 4K UHD backup images (decrypted). How can I tell if the HDR is Dolby Vision? For example, this one says its Dolby Vision and this is what I see in MediaInfo on the biggest stream file. I was maybe expecting to see Dolby Vision on the "HDR format" line.

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Are you sure that file has DV? How old is your MediaInfo version? What version of MakeMKV did you use to create the MKV?

It should look more like this:
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If you mean m2ts file, for DV, there should be a secondary 1080p track within the main m2ts file. This is the DV layer.
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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#3 Post by ArArdin » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:15 am

If you mean images as in ISO's or UHD-BD folder structure, the m2ts and the playlists that refer to it will show 2 videostreams in MediaInfo.
Where the big 3840x2160 is the baselayer.
And the second video is 1920x1080 enhancement layer, being MEL or FEL.

Also when importing a UHDBD or mkv containing Dolby Vision, MakeMKV will tell you.

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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#4 Post by plutoscarab » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:19 pm

Oh, I see! Yes, there's a 1080p stream of video in the same m2ts. Thank you both.

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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#5 Post by plutoscarab » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:26 pm

MartyMcNuts, what is your image from? I'm not seeing Dolby Vision in MediaInfo which is windows version 21.09. This is a backup folder structure created from MakeMKV 1.16.5 and I was looking at a single m2ts file.

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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#6 Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:37 pm

plutoscarab wrote:
Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:26 pm
MartyMcNuts, what is your image from? I'm not seeing Dolby Vision in MediaInfo which is windows version 21.09. This is a backup folder structure created from MakeMKV 1.16.5 and I was looking at a single m2ts file.
It is from the DV MKV file created using MakeMKV.
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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#7 Post by lordvader » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:51 am

I thought I'll ask the question here, rather than create a new thread.
I've ripped some UHDs (backup, not to mkv), and I notice that media info doesn't mention Dolby Vision in the m2ts file:

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General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : C:\Video\backup\Ready Player One (2018)\BDMV\STREAM\00014.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 79.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 81.3 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 725 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 162 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
However, if I take that backup, and use makemkv to create an mkv, media info does report Dolby Vision:

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General
Unique ID                                : 308528094891246814808916124328690516446 (0xE81C59838D68304C795BACA3001101DE)
Complete name                            : C:\Video\Ready Player One\Ready Player One_t02.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 77.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.1 Mb/s
Movie name                               : Ready Player One
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-02-10 23:30:38
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.16.5 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate                                 : 63.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.317
Stream size                              : 61.6 GiB (80%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 725 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 162 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Is the minimal metadata on the m2ts file to be expected?

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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#8 Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:40 am

lordvader wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:51 am
I thought I'll ask the question here, rather than create a new thread.
I've ripped some UHDs (backup, not to mkv), and I notice that media info doesn't mention Dolby Vision in the m2ts file:

Code: Select all

General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : C:\Video\backup\Ready Player One (2018)\BDMV\STREAM\00014.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 79.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 81.3 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 725 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 162 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
However, if I take that backup, and use makemkv to create an mkv, media info does report Dolby Vision:

Code: Select all

General
Unique ID                                : 308528094891246814808916124328690516446 (0xE81C59838D68304C795BACA3001101DE)
Complete name                            : C:\Video\Ready Player One\Ready Player One_t02.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 77.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.1 Mb/s
Movie name                               : Ready Player One
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-02-10 23:30:38
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.16.5 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate                                 : 63.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.317
Stream size                              : 61.6 GiB (80%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 725 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 162 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Is the minimal metadata on the m2ts file to be expected?
The second video track (the 1080p one) is the DV metadata track.
Cheers :D
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Re: How to tell if UHD backup is Dolby Vision

#9 Post by lordvader » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:00 am

Figured that - but there's no metadata that mentions Dolby Vision - so how can a player know?

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