Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

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DWreck1995
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Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

#1 Post by DWreck1995 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:28 am

On the disk, there's 3 English subtitles accessible through the menus. Normal, SDH, and commentary. Technically, there's a 4th one because there are some forced subtitle scenes when someone speaks a foreign language. But that's obviously not accessible in the menus.

In MakeMKV, there's 4 (8 if you include "forced only") English subtitles. If you check 8, you'll end up with 6 because 2 of the "forced only" are empty and removed.

After checking all 6 in VLC, the first 3 are normal, forced, and SDH. The last 3 are duplicate normal, forced, and SDH. None contain the commentary.

I can simply remove the duplicates. But I can't figure out how to get the commentary. Does anyone have any clues on what would cause this issue?

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Re: Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

#2 Post by preserve » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:14 am

I don't have this particular disc, but my advice would be:

- Check for alternate playlists
- Check the original m2ts files

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Re: Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

#3 Post by DWreck1995 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:49 am

preserve wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:14 am
I don't have this particular disc, but my advice would be:

- Check for alternate playlists
- Check the original m2ts files

(Please note that this thread has been moved to the "Blu-ray discs" forum.)
Thanks for the suggestion. I used Process Monitor with PowerDVD to identify the m2ts and mpls. I saw the playlist with the m2ts, but the mpls didn't match. When I checked the BDMV folder and played the mpls that MakeMKV doesn't see, there's also 6 subtitles, but it contains one with the commentary.

I was able to get the commentary subtitles then.

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Re: Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

#4 Post by thetoad » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:58 am

this is a bug I've mentioned multiple times before. MakeMKV is many times attempting to be too smart for its own good and filters out playlists it thinks are duplicates when they really arent. I really want a power use mode that says "don't do any filtering"

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Re: Duplicate and missing subtitles from Inside Job

#5 Post by Chetwood » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:15 am

DWreck1995 wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:49 am
I used Process Monitor with PowerDVD to identify the m2ts and mpls.
It's usually enough to check the BDMV > Stream folder for the biggest m2ts to find the right sub. BDInfo could help identifying the right playlist.
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