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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:36 pm
by Mattl0
I have a lg g3 here. I will replace it by a sony soon.

Anyways, I tried to play p7 dual layer ts via the media app on the g3 and they are not recognized. On my c1 they play as hdr, but on the g3 nothing.

I was wondering what lg did here.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 pm
by Mattl0
I tried searching this mega thread but could find the info.

What is the purpose of reinjecting rpu from an resolve analysist? I see @RESET_9999 that you have done a lot of movie , what is the purpose of using your rpu ? What should i do with it and what would be the outcome difference versus original p7 DL?

Thanks

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:05 pm
by RESET_9999
Mattl0 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:28 pm Is is normal that a higher luminance level on a “tonemaped under 700 nit tv” looks dimmer?, isn’t it?
Yes, when the content exceeds your TV capabilities, Dolby dims the brightness to preserve highlights details. HDR10 also does that but with a static curve while DV does it shot by shot.
Mattl0 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:36 pm I have a lg g3 here. I will replace it by a sony soon.
Anyways, I tried to play p7 dual layer ts via the media app on the g3 and they are not recognized. On my c1 they play as hdr, but on the g3 nothing.
I was wondering what lg did here.
No P7 support since 2019 on LG TVs.
Mattl0 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 pm I tried searching this mega thread but could find the info.
What is the purpose of reinjecting rpu from an resolve analysist? I see @RESET_9999 that you have done a lot of movie , what is the purpose of using your rpu ? What should i do with it and what would be the outcome difference versus original p7 DL?
Thanks
Resolve is for movies that come without DV or the ones that have static metadata.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:14 am
by RESET_9999
18.6 also fixes the downscaling bug, now there is no longer a difference between the project set to 1080p or 2160p. NICE!

18.6 scaling VS no scaling:https://slow.pics/c/bJAeBXyi
18.5 scaling VS no scaling: https://slow.pics/c/4O89GXHw

But it's still important to have your project set to Custom Cubic because it's still the only algo that produces identical peaks as madVR.
18.6 smoother vs cubic custom: https://slow.pics/c/vB9fJdUi

Full movie:
L1 tuning 1 vs OLD L1 legacy vs madVR
https://slow.pics/c/upYDfebF


EDIT: woah, scratch that. It turns out the scaling issues are caused by the cracked version :lol: .

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:16 am
by thirdmoon
RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:14 am
EDIT: woah, scratch that. It turns out the scaling issues are caused by the cracked version :lol: .
What settings to use on cracked one?

I generated a xml using the recently updated preset in cracked version (18.6). Do we need to make any changes or is that fine?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:29 am
by mtotheb
“SEI Next-gen Box is equipped with Amlogic S905X5 which incorporates a New-gen CPU, 4K HDR UI GPU, NPU 2x4Kp60 decoder, and WVC. Incorporating Ai-SR, Dolby Laboratories Dolby Atmos, eARC, VRR, and QMS support”

Is there any legitimate other reason for dual 4k60 decoders other than FEL Dolby Vision? Sounds like an interesting contender

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:36 pm
by RESET_9999
thirdmoon wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:16 am What settings to use on cracked one?
I generated a xml using the recently updated preset in cracked version (18.6). Do we need to make any changes or is that fine?
You have to use the same old settings cubic + 1080p as before...
This is so strange, I wonder if there are other things that don't work properly in the cracked version, I'm glad I legally bought it.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:37 pm
by RESET_9999
mtotheb wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:29 am “SEI Next-gen Box is equipped with Amlogic S905X5 which incorporates a New-gen CPU, 4K HDR UI GPU, NPU 2x4Kp60 decoder, and WVC. Incorporating Ai-SR, Dolby Laboratories Dolby Atmos, eARC, VRR, and QMS support”

Is there any legitimate other reason for dual 4k60 decoders other than FEL Dolby Vision? Sounds like an interesting contender
I personally gave up on those cheap android boxes but let us know if you try it.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:24 am
by RESET_9999
RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:14 am 18.6 also fixes the downscaling bug, now there is no longer a difference between the project set to 1080p or 2160p. NICE!
18.6 scaling VS no scaling:https://slow.pics/c/bJAeBXyi
18.5 scaling VS no scaling: https://slow.pics/c/4O89GXHw
EDIT: woah, scratch that. It turns out the scaling issues are caused by the cracked version :lol: .
wait I'm stupid sorry. When I tested my fresh install of resolve , the timeline was set automatically to 1080p and didn't change to 2160p when i imported the movie so that's why it didn't make difference in the metadata and scope when i switched from 1080p scaling to no scaling. When i redid the preset, i noticed that there was a difference between scaling or not like before so the behavior is still present and we still have to use he same cubic 1080p settings as before :(

With the new Tuning 1, there's a very small difference between scaling and no scaling: https://slow.pics/c/40L7cK3b
only with the old algo, there's a huge difference, same as before: https://slow.pics/c/YQEbjBIn

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:49 am
by thirdmoon
https://slow.pics/c/FXgydDrP

Pic 1 - 1080p Cubic 18.5 Resolve
Pic 2 - Cubic 18.6 Resolve
Pic 3 - 1080p Cubic 18.6 Resolve

Pic 2 and 3 are basically the same but I would choose 1080p cubic as it does speed up things for me.

Also RESET why is L1 of One Piece flat? Is it simply SDR?

EDIT - Here is my try of SDR to HDR conversion - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:07 pm
by RESET_9999
yeah, I hate it when the studios just put 100nits SDR into an HDR/DV container.
Basically, the only HDR in this TV show is the Netflix intro at 943nits and they didn't even bother doing the ending credits, it's just straight SDR text to HDR( blinding 10k nits) lol

About your conversion, I would have used the HDR webdl in Resolve but it looks like you went a bit too strong on the ''DARK'' setting. Personally I always reduce ''dark'' as much as I raise ''global'', otherwise, you introduce black crush.
example: https://slow.pics/c/i0IXZHzW

for reference, this is MA Theater Camp SDR to HDR I did recently (dark -0.30 /global +0.30):
https://slow.pics/c/pDBOKphG

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:42 pm
by thirdmoon
I think they just want to make sure that the DV logo pops up, even if the content is just SDR. The Ahsoka show, Barbie are below 400nits most of the time.

Yeah my image looks too dark. I'll try some other settings. Thanks

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm
by quietvoid
thirdmoon wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:42 pm I think they just want to make sure that the DV logo pops up, even if the content is just SDR. The Ahsoka show, Barbie are below 400nits most of the time.
400 nits is not SDR, and the image doesn't have to be bright all the time to be HDR.
Ahsoka looks nice and it's graded to 600 nits.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:38 pm
by thirdmoon
quietvoid wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm
thirdmoon wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:42 pm I think they just want to make sure that the DV logo pops up, even if the content is just SDR. The Ahsoka show, Barbie are below 400nits most of the time.
400 nits is not SDR, and the image doesn't have to be bright all the time to be HDR.
Ahsoka looks nice and it's graded to 600 nits.
I think Ahsoka looks better in SDR. For Ashoka HDR colours look washed no matter which screen I tried.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:47 pm
by RESET_9999
quietvoid wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm 400 nits is not SDR, and the image doesn't have to be bright all the time to be HDR.
Ahsoka looks nice and it's graded to 600 nits.

yeah, I agree and I'm fine with a 200-400 grade if that's intended. And most movies have an average brightness under 100nits with just the highlights that are brighter.
In NF One Piece the 600nits trim pass makes it a little brighter though.