Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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tjreis2
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by tjreis2 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:42 am

Hello @RESET_9999!

I have a x800m2 as well and I have quite a few DV movies that are in a .mkv format with TrueHD audio. However, when I convert them to .ts using tsmuxer, the TrueHD track doesnt play in the sony because there is no core in the original mkv file (which is normal behavior for this format).

I noticed that in your tools you have the workflow 4-3 to convert this .mkv in iso files, merging a silent core track so that it can play in the sony! However, I have a couple of questions:

- Do I need to convert them first to iso as it is in your tutorial videos or can I directly convert them to .ts and play them in the Sony? Will the Dolby Vision and the TrueHD track play correctly?

- The workflow is adding a silent core track. Will there be loss of audio quality as it is a silent track or will it be in full quality, as if it was muxed from a full bluray folder?

- For this workflow, do i need to download any other tools or is your bat file enough?

Thank you for all your work!

RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:59 am

Mrmorrison wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:30 am
I was asking this because I could remove the subtitles that were not necessary for me before the mux and, perhaps, in this way I would have already been able to remove the faulty ones without even knowing it and without having to restart the mux process.

Anyway... stupidly I had deleted the EL and BL files so I was forced to repeat the procedure in order to get to the moment of the error and manually use tsmuxer with the two files your script would have left (undeleted) instead, to my amazement, this time there was no mistake and the film is complete. How is it possible? How come a subtitle that was annoying before, now hasn't given any problems? Yet I'm sure that tsmuxer encountered the problem towards the end of the mux, when working on subtitles..
strange, next time you notice that the raw hevcs (BL + EL) were not deleted, try to tell me what is the tsmuxer error reported.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:06 am

tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:42 am
- Do I need to convert them first to iso as it is in your tutorial videos or can I directly convert them to .ts and play them in the Sony? Will the Dolby Vision and the TrueHD track play correctly?
No you can feed the script (4-3) with your ST P7 MKV and it will create a dual layer and add a silent core to trueHD.
If the input is MEL, you can convert to P8 without any quality loss. (4-2-1)
tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:42 am
- The workflow is adding a silent core track. Will there be loss of audio quality as it is a silent track or will it be in full quality, as if it was muxed from a full bluray folder?
No quality loss for the TrueHD audio but if you try to play the ac3 core, obviously it will be silent.
tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:42 am
- For this workflow, do i need to download any other tools or is your bat file enough?
For this workflow you need at least (maybe I forget some):

dovi_tool
tsmuxer
thdmerge
mediainfo
ffmpeg

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by tjreis2 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:22 am

Thank you!

Most of my mkv DV files are FEL. However, I have some P8 hybrid MKVs that suffer from the same TrueHD problem.

Can I use the same 4-3 workflow for these P8 MKVs so that it merges a silent core in .TS format so that I can play them in the x800m2?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:00 pm

tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:22 am
Thank you!

Most of my mkv DV files are FEL. However, I have some P8 hybrid MKVs that suffer from the same TrueHD problem.

Can I use the same 4-3 workflow for these P8 MKVs so that it merges a silent core in .TS format so that I can play them in the x800m2?
You can use the batch tsmuxer workflow (5) for P8/P5 MKVs

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Mrmorrison » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:03 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:59 am
strange, next time you notice that the raw hevcs (BL + EL) were not deleted, try to tell me what is the tsmuxer error reported.
ok!
Thanks for the support!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by tjreis2 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:39 pm

Thank You again!

Just to see if i understood everything correctly:

If I have a P7 FEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P7 MEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 or 4-2-1 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P8 hybrid TrueHD .mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 5 without changing the mux line in the bat.

Is this correct?

An outside question: I also have a couple of REMUX TrueHD mkv files that are in HDR and not DV, that suffer from the same audio track problem. Can I use your workflow 3-2 to add the silent core and convert to ts to play on the x800m2?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:48 pm

tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:39 pm
Thank You again!

Just to see if i understood everything correctly:

If I have a P7 FEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P7 MEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 or 4-2-1 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P8 hybrid TrueHD .mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 5 without changing the mux line in the bat.

Is this correct?
yes

An outside question: I also have a couple of REMUX TrueHD mkv files that are in HDR and not DV, that suffer from the same audio track problem. Can I use your workflow 3-2 to add the silent core and convert to ts to play on the x800m2?
yes all the workflow that mux to TS will automatically add a silent core to TrueHD.
(3) will add DV from madvr which is not great though.

you can use (5) to just mux the mkv and the script will add the ac3 core.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by valington » Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:19 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:32 pm
Mrmorrison wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:15 pm
@RESET_9999

Hello Chief!
I don't know exactly when this problem started, if it depends on the bat version or the recent tools update you made available for a few days.
But with path 4-3 it often happens that the output TS file is incomplete.
Sometimes it's incomplete for 30 minutes, sometimes more, sometimes less.
My x800m2 freezes in these files (that's how I noticed it) at the last second. With other devices, however, the video simply stops as if it had come to an end. Do you know anything about it?

It's never happened to me before, yet I've been using your tool for a long time. I know it would be much better if there is the iso file as input but I am often forced to use mkv ST DL.

I tried to use tsmuxer separately with the BL and EL files that the tool generates, adding the original mkv file, but it ends with an error (which unfortunately I didn't write) maybe it depends on the final mux. What can I do? deThe last three films, two have had this problem
Most likely some SRT subtitles with invalid timing.
I had this issue with a lot of MAX web-dl and the solution is to uncheck the problematic subs.

When the ts muxing fails, the script is made to not delete the final processed HEVC file so you don't have to start over.
Thank you for TL info RESET ,TL is awesome !

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:37 pm

tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:39 pm
Thank You again!

Just to see if i understood everything correctly:

If I have a P7 FEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P7 MEL TrueHD REMUX.mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 4-3 or 4-2-1 without changing the mux line in the bat.

If I have a P8 hybrid TrueHD .mkv and want to convert to .ts to play on the x800m2: Workflow 5 without changing the mux line in the bat.

Is this correct?

An outside question: I also have a couple of REMUX TrueHD mkv files that are in HDR and not DV, that suffer from the same audio track problem. Can I use your workflow 3-2 to add the silent core and convert to ts to play on the x800m2?
Why not just use tsmuxer to remux the mkv file into bluray folder and play via usb?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:39 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:37 pm
st use tsmuxer to remux the mkv file into bluray folder and play via usb?
because the x800m2 5ghz wifi is fast enough to play high bitrate bluray.
bluray folder playback is not supported via the network

RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:54 pm

BTW i've compared the TV-LED rgb signal for the x700/x800m2 and its exactly the same.
And as you can see in the comparison , the shield has completely different tunneling colors. Black is supposed to be dark red in TV-LED tunneling but it's purple on the Shield. Even profile 5 seems to be wrong.

https://slow.pics/c/iJGQlcAS

All the other devices (dune, firetv max, firetv old, zidoo, appletv, oppo, x700, x800m2, Philips, chromecast) have a dark RED for black in TV-LED.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by rodrigo081089 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:27 pm

Im using dovi tools to convert a profile 7 remux to a profile 8. When I use the command to get the hevc the result file has lower bitrate

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:50 pm

Nevermind

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:02 pm

tjreis2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:42 am
I have a x800m2 as well and I have quite a few DV movies that are in a .mkv format with TrueHD audio. However, when I convert them to .ts using tsmuxer, the TrueHD track doesnt play in the sony because there is no core in the original mkv file (which is normal behavior for this format).
In which movies do you see this?

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