Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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xxyz1
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by xxyz1 »

Hi guys,

my posts are getting online hours later, so you can't recognized it.... (Because of I'm a new user?)

I tried some with RESET_9999 script, but it didn't work anything.

File: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

7 > 1 > 1 > drag hevc ENTER > drag eac3 ENTER > no 2nd eac3 ENTER > no subs ENTER

CMD closed nothing happend.


5 > drag MKV ENTER > no 2nd mkv ENTER

Image

What exactly I've to do?

For remind: Try to look DV on OLED LG 55B6D but with mkv files it can't play.
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

xxyz1 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:59 am
 Hi guys,

my posts are getting online hours later, so you can't recognized it.... (Because of I'm a new user?)

I tried some with RESET_9999 script, but it didn't work anything.

File: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

7 > 1 > 1 > drag hevc ENTER > drag eac3 ENTER > no 2nd eac3 ENTER > no subs ENTER

CMD closed nothing happend.


5 > drag MKV ENTER > no 2nd mkv ENTER



What exactly I've to do?

For remind: Try to look DV on OLED LG 55B6D but with mkv files it can't play.
that picture looks like a known problem with some SRT tracks and tsmuxer
The easiest way is to remux your mkv file in tsmuxer directly. no need to use my script if you just want to mux 1 file.
https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases

As for 7-1-1, I'll check it out.
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sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 »

May I ask where did you guys get those P8.1 files? On private tracker?
I have never seen DV other than P7 and P5 on rarbg.

Also I was told ffmpeg/mp4box do not support EAC3/atmos, is that true?
Is there a way to get EAC3/atmos with truly playable atmos in mp4 container?
Many thanks!
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

Most of the P8 files I have were converted/synced from P5 web-dl. Most of them are from private trackers indeed.

mp4box has no problem with DD+ Atmos. it can even mux TrueHD and DTS-HD.
There seems to be a way to convert TrueHD to DD+ atmos as well but I don't know how yet. So far I'm only able to extract the atmos metadata to wav from DD+ files.

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Audio
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Format                                   : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
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Codec ID                                 : A_EAC3
Duration                                 : 4 h 2 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 512 kb/s
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Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Tfl Tfr
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Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
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Stream size                              : 2.56 GiB (100%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Complexity index                         : 16
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE
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staknhalo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by staknhalo »

sw5163 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:03 pm
 May I ask where did you guys get those P8.1 files? On private tracker?
I have never seen DV other than P7 and P5 on rarbg.
I make my own p8 like Reset from p5+hdr10 because otherwise I need to keep separate p5+hdr10 files for each title (for backwards compatibility on devices that can't play p5 or with a player that can't color shift to be backwards compatible) - unlike Reset if I gotta start trimming stuff I just don't bother, I already have to do so much so for mismatches/not easy to do immediately files, I'll just keep p5+hdr10 (which is why I initially had some p5 I wanted to make work with Apple devices)
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sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 »

Thank you guys for explaining! :)

When I encapsulate EAC3/atmos to mp4 by mp4box, the "Complexity ID" change to "Complexity index: Not present / 15"
I was told it would then not be recognized by Apple. (Not atmos but still EAC3 5.1)
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:21 pm
 There seems to be a way to convert TrueHD to DD+ atmos as well but I don't know how yet. So far I'm only able to extract the atmos metadata to wav from DD+ files.
Does that mean you can get base 5.1ac3 + several sky channels wav?
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

sw5163 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:05 pm
 When I encapsulate EAC3/atmos to mp4 by mp4box, the "Complexity ID" change to "Complexity index: Not present / 15"
I was told it would then not be recognized by Apple. (Not atmos but still EAC3 5.1)
mux eac3 / THD / DTSHD to mp4 with ffmpeg first than import with mp4box.

Does that mean you can get base 5.1ac3 + several sky channels wav?
it creates wav file like this and it can be encoded to a new eac3 atmos file in DEE. But i dont see any point doing that. Maybe downsizing 768kbps to 448kbps?


https://github.com/VoidXH/Cavern/

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Duration                                 : 7 min 1 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
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Audio
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sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 »

I see it can't fully process TrueHD/atmos yet.
My bad, I just keep thinking get 16 channel PCM from TrueHD/atmos.
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:41 pm
 mux eac3 / THD / DTSHD to mp4 with ffmpeg first than import with mp4box.
ffmpeg copy eac3/atmos to mp4 breaks "complexity index" in the first place.
mp4box -add eac3/atmos directly from atmos.mp4 also breaks "complexity index".

I have managed to fix/restore "complexity index" by

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mp4muxer -i atmos.ec3 -o atmos.mp4
mp4box -add dv.hevc dv.mp4
mp4mux(bento4) --track dv.mp4 --track atmos.mp4 merged.mp4
It has correct media info.
But I have no idea would it trigger atmos successfully.
The guy sending message to me on PLEX forum is just disappeared.

Update: He said it works.
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

sw5163 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:47 pm
 I see it can't fully process TrueHD/atmos yet.
My bad, I just keep thinking get 16 channel PCM from TrueHD/atmos.
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:41 pm
 mux eac3 / THD / DTSHD to mp4 with ffmpeg first than import with mp4box.
ffmpeg copy eac3/atmos to mp4 breaks "complexity index" in the first place.
mp4box -add eac3/atmos directly from atmos.mp4 also breaks "complexity index".

I have managed to fix/restore "complexity index" by

Code: Select all

mp4muxer -i atmos.ec3 -o atmos.mp4
mp4box -add dv.hevc dv.mp4
mp4mux(bento4) --track dv.mp4 --track atmos.mp4 merged.mp4
It has correct media info.
But I have no idea would it trigger atmos successfully.
The guy sending message to me on PLEX forum is just disappeared.

Update: He said it works.
right, I only use FFmpeg for THD and DTS to mp4 then mp4box.
for ec3 its mp4muxer + mp4box
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sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 »

RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:18 pm
 right, I only use FFmpeg for THD and DTS to mp4 then mp4box.
for ec3 its mp4muxer + mp4box
Yes I have tried mp4muxer + mp4box,
even directly extract from atmos.mp4 will break the "Complexity index".

For example in atmos.mp4 produced by mp4muxer:
Complexity index : 16

mp4box -add atmos.mp4 -new parse_by_mp4box.mp4
Complexity index : Not present / 16

I was wondering what other devices (TV's internal player, Bluray player) react to "Complexity index : Not present / 16".
If it's just ATV can't play it as atmos, then Apple is ridiculous.
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

sw5163 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:48 pm
 mp4box -add atmos.mp4 -new parse_by_mp4box.mp4
Complexity index : Not present / 16

I was wondering what other devices (TV's internal player, Bluray player) react to "Complexity index : Not present / 16".
If it's just ATV can't play it as atmos, then Apple is ridiculous.
it works on my TV, i already tried and i never actually noticed that the complexity index was gone after muxing with mp4box. lol

if you look at all the DV mp4 with atmos on rarbg they also are the same.
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

remuxed the mp4 in tsmuxer or mkvtoolnix and the Complexity index is back to normal, so i dont think it really matters (except for apple as usual haha)
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sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 »

RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 pm
 except for apple as usual haha
F* Apple
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

xxyz1 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:59 am
 Hi guys,
Hi, Try 1.5.5.
7-1-1 should be fixed. Let me know if you find other bugs in the mp4muxer, I never really use it.

But for LG TV playback i recommend tsmuxer. Faster and playback is more stable than mp4.
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realbabilu
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by realbabilu »

sw5163 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:01 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 pm
 except for apple as usual haha
F* Apple
haye you tried subler ?
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