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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:57 am
by Amused
deadchip12 wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:46 am
Amused wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:02 am
deadchip12 wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:04 pm
Is there a way to check if the x700 is playing tv led dolby vision instead of play led?
I have the Philips HDMI Sync Box between the tv and both players (Sony and Zidoo). The Sync Box synchronizes the lights of different Philips hue products to the image on the screen.

The Sync Box works with Dolby Vision only if it’s player-led (LLDV). It doesn’t work with TV-led Dolby Vision, unless I switch on the “Dolby Vision Enhanced compatibility” option inside the Sync Box settings. This option basically forces the player to switch to LLDV and then the lights work. So if the Hue lights sync without the DV enhanced compatibility option checked - it’s player-led DV. If they don’t work - it’s TV-led DV.
Does the x700 switch to tv led dolby vision automatically when the tv supports tv led dolby vision? There's no option to switch between tv led and player led on the x700.
I think this is precisely the way it works. I believe it will always send TV-led DV (8 bit) if the TV supports it, otherwise it will send LLDV (12 bit). There is no option to switch between player-led and TV-led on the Sony, I think Oppo 203 has this option (as well as the Zidoo players).

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:01 pm
by staknhalo
Do you guys see any difference perceptually with TV led? Or just want it cause it's technically better? I know even if you see something it could be subjective in perception, etc - just curious really. I feel like when I watch a FEL for example the image has more depth to it it seems.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:40 pm
by RESET_9999
staknhalo wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:01 pm Do you guys see any difference perceptually with TV led?
it depends on which player you use. On the x700/x800m2/Shield the L1 and L2 trims are not working at all in LLDV.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:36 pm
by staknhalo
RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:40 pm
staknhalo wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:01 pm Do you guys see any difference perceptually with TV led?
it depends on which player you use. On the x700/x800m2/Shield the L1 and L2 trims are not working at all in LLDV.
ah, so there's obvious stuff missing

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:50 pm
by sergonnn111
HI i don t understand how i can drag and drop mkv file doly vision into reset999 scripts i want to do ts file dolby vision i just dont understand sorry for my english

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:51 pm
by RESET_9999
sergonnn111 wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:50 pm HI i don t understand how i can drag and drop mkv file doly vision into reset999 scripts i want to do ts file dolby vision i just dont understand sorry for my english
if you want profile 8 DV for TV playback(or any other non-fel device) and your MKV input is profile 7, select: 4-2-1 if you have to convert lossless audio or if not: 4-2-3
if you want DV playback on x700/x800m2/oppo and your MKV input is profile 7, select: 4-3-2 if you want to convert THD or if not: 4-3-4
There are workflows for when your input is bluray disc as well.

if your MKV input is profile 8 or 5, just remux in tsmuxer.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:16 pm
by sergonnn111
yes, my mkv file in 8 profile dolby vision and i did it in last versions of ts muxer and this don t work, i don t know why but Hybrid mkv 8 profile is working in ts muxer and native lg oled player is dolby vision

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:17 pm
by sergonnn111
my tv is lg oled e8 2018

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:06 pm
by RESET_9999
sergonnn111 wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:17 pm my tv is lg oled e8 2018
with tsmuxer file + plex on 2018 LG tv:
1- Audio must be AC3 / EAC3 or DTS,DTSHD. DV won't work if the audio is TrueHD.
2- pgs subtitles must not be selected: only external srt works with DV TS

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:04 am
by Amused
@RESET_9999 how do I rip a Profile 7 FEL Dolby Vision UHD disc that contains 3 or 4 different videos in it (tv series)? I wish to make separate BluRay folders for each episode in tsmuxer. Thanks

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:26 pm
by RESET_9999
Amused wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:04 am @RESET_9999 how do I rip a Profile 7 FEL Dolby Vision UHD disc that contains 3 or 4 different videos in it (tv series)? I wish to make separate BluRay folders for each episode in tsmuxer. Thanks
good question, and I'm not sure.
I guess Makemkv or bdinfo can list all the mpls files (episodes order) and then you can use tsmuxer, as usual, to make a bdmv folder for each episode.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:36 pm
by Amused
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:26 pm
Amused wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:04 am @RESET_9999 how do I rip a Profile 7 FEL Dolby Vision UHD disc that contains 3 or 4 different videos in it (tv series)? I wish to make separate BluRay folders for each episode in tsmuxer. Thanks
good question, and I'm not sure.
I guess Makemkv or bdinfo can list all the mpls files (episodes order) and then you can use tsmuxer, as usual, to make a bdmv folder for each episode.
I used your script to list the mpls files, it basically lists them in the correct order (one episode after the other). Then I imported every playlist separately into tsmuxer and made separate BluRay folders for each episode. Works like a charm! Thank you!

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:43 pm
by sofakng
Does anybody have any clever solutions when using a USB HDD on the Sony x800m2?

It seems like a pain to unplug the hard drive, connect to a PC and update the movies, and then reconnect it, etc.

Are there any wifi hard drives or anything to make this process easier and not require unplugging the drive?

The main reason I'm interested in this is for the BDMV support so I don't need to manually enable force subtitles?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:59 pm
by RESET_9999
sofakng wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:43 pm Does anybody have any clever solutions when using a USB HDD on the Sony x800m2?

It seems like a pain to unplug the hard drive, connect to a PC and update the movies, and then reconnect it, etc.

Are there any wifi hard drives or anything to make this process easier and not require unplugging the drive?

The main reason I'm interested in this is for the BDMV support so I don't need to manually enable force subtitles?
@deadchip suggested this. Not sure if he tried.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&p=123354#p123354
I would get one that is USB 3.0 or C though. (if your pc support it)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:06 pm
by sofakng
Thanks... I was looking for something more automated (or remotely controlled/switched via network).

Anyways, I still have another week to return my x800m2 to Amazon. I'm learning towards returning it... I know there aren't really any alternatives for FEL playback (besides Oppo) though, but x800m2 has a few issues:
  • Dolby Vision doesn't automatically trigger
  • Ethernet is only 100 Mbps
  • Doesn't support IP network control (for my Control4 system)
  • TS/M2TS requires manual forced subtitles and no chapters
Maybe something better will be released in the near future...?