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RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:22 pm

sw5163 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:19 pm Do you have a file with a lot of cmv40 data?

you can check out the movie Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard. And I think you can remove cmv4.x with the dovi_tool

Thanks, I'm going to give it a test.

ragico wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:40 pm Those files, provided by @quietvoid are mkv.
So I remuxed them in Ts muxer.
In Plex both mkv and ts remuxed files do not work. No rpu.
So, to answer my question, P8 ts files in Plex are fake DV.

ok so
fake p5 TS = no go
p8 ts =no go
p8 mkv = no go as well I guess?

one last thing to try,
fake p5 mkv: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_edhc ... sp=sharing

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:45 pm

ragico wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:40 pm Those files, provided by @quietvoid are mkv.
So I remuxed them in Ts muxer.
In Plex both mkv and ts remuxed files do not work. No rpu.
So, to answer my question, P8 ts files in Plex are fake DV.

ok so
fake p5 TS = no go
p8 ts =no go
p8 mkv = no go as well I guess?

one last thing to try,
fake p5 mkv: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_edhc ... sp=sharing

The file cant be played in Plex.

Is it possible to decode and play Dolby Vision movies on a PC monitor?

For example, the Alienware AW3423DW (34" Ultrawide, QD-OLED, "HDR") doesn't support Dolby Vision but can software decode the Dolby Vision and display it instead of having the monitor decode it?

sofakng wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:48 pm Is it possible to decode and play Dolby Vision movies on a PC monitor?

For example, the Alienware AW3423DW (34" Ultrawide, QD-OLED, "HDR") doesn't support Dolby Vision but can software decode the Dolby Vision and display it instead of having the monitor decode it?

Not completely supported as if it was played in real Dolby Vision.
At best you can playback profile 5 in HDR10, with no extra dynamic tone mapping using the metadata.

mpv supports partial processing of profile 7/8 as well, but that might be inaccurate in comparison.
As the processing isn't complete (FEL, for example).

quietvoid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:03 pm At best you can playback profile 5 in HDR10, with no extra dynamic tone mapping using the metadata.

Sorry could you please explain more of this? Is it still HDR10 when RPU levels can make a difference?
Can windows have the correct display brightness and pass that to DV extension and produce proper tone mapped image? In that case, would it be equivalent to HDR10+?

sw5163 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:35 pmSorry could you please explain more of this? Is it still HDR10 when RPU levels can make a difference?

The dynamic metadata from the RPU isn't used, so what you get as output is HDR10 + whatever processing your video player does.

sw5163 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:35 pmCan windows have the correct display brightness and pass that to DV extension and produce proper tone mapped image? In that case, would it be equivalent to HDR10+?

No, you have to rely on your player to do the tone mapping, or the HDR10 passthrough.

quietvoid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:39 pm

sw5163 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:35 pmSorry could you please explain more of this? Is it still HDR10 when RPU levels can make a difference?

The dynamic metadata from the RPU isn't used, so what you get as output is HDR10 + whatever processing your video player does.

No, you have to rely on your player to do the tone mapping, or the HDR10 passthrough.

Sorry I’m a little confused, what do you mean by “dynamic metadata”? RPU level in your samples make a difference on DV extension on windows. Is there something more in p8 RPU besides null reshaping and those levels? I thought if I can see dynamic brightness change it will be dynamic mapping. Maybe I’m wrong, which I always am.
What’s the difference between let DV extension handle mapping(if it works correctly) and proper lldv?

ragico wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:09 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:45 pm

ragico wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:40 pm Those files, provided by @quietvoid are mkv.
So I remuxed them in Ts muxer.
In Plex both mkv and ts remuxed files do not work. No rpu.
So, to answer my question, P8 ts files in Plex are fake DV.

ok so
fake p5 TS = no go
p8 ts =no go
p8 mkv = no go as well I guess?

one last thing to try,
fake p5 mkv: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_edhc ... sp=sharing

The file cant be played in Plex.

Guess fake P5 mp4 will be the only way.

sw5163 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:14 pmSorry I’m a little confused, what do you mean by “dynamic metadata”?

The original post asked about HDR playback.

What you're talking about is the Windows app, which only outputs SDR.
That does dynamic tone mapping but no HDR output.

quietvoid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:29 pm The original post asked about HDR playback.

What you're talking about is the Windows app, which only outputs SDR.
That does dynamic tone mapping but no HDR output.

My bad. Sorry.

ragico wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:09 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:45 pm one last thing to try,
fake p5 mkv: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_edhc ... sp=sharing

The file cant be played in Plex.

Wait, there is something wrong with the file. Windows TV and Movie can't play it either.
I got an error message when demux it through ffmpeg.
Could you please re-upload that and give it a re-test?
Just for preciseness.

sw5163 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:30 am Wait, there is something wrong with the file. Windows TV and Movie can't play it either.
I got an error message when demux it through ffmpeg.
Could you please re-upload that and give it a re-test?
Just for preciseness.

I don't know, it plays fine in MPC and MPV.
I tried with another fake p5 mkv and indeed, the Movies and TV app can't play it.

FYI, @ragico tested, LPCM, DTSHD, and TrueHD in a dvh1 MP4 container and the ATV fails the play the audio.
So the best we can get is EAC3 1536kbps.

script is almost ready:

quietvoid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:03 pm

sofakng wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:48 pm Is it possible to decode and play Dolby Vision movies on a PC monitor?

For example, the Alienware AW3423DW (34" Ultrawide, QD-OLED, "HDR") doesn't support Dolby Vision but can software decode the Dolby Vision and display it instead of having the monitor decode it?

Not completely supported as if it was played in real Dolby Vision.
At best you can playback profile 5 in HDR10, with no extra dynamic tone mapping using the metadata.

mpv supports partial processing of profile 7/8 as well, but that might be inaccurate in comparison.
As the processing isn't complete (FEL, for example).

I use a dv tv as monitor & widows app this is the playback I get from windows app
This is probably as close to dv on a pc with mp4, pc is in hdr mode when dv kicks in.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bEHAjx ... p=drivesdk

Manixx2020beyound wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:59 pm I use a dv tv as monitor & widows app this is the playback I get from windows app
This is probably as close to dv on a pc with mp4, pc is in hdr mode when dv kicks in.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bEHAjx ... p=drivesdk

you forgot to mention that you have to use the Vertex to trick windows into thinking you have a DV monitor.