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Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:57 am
by Mr_Orange
What is the current status of the BDR-212DBK 5.25" internal drive?
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:28 am
by MartyMcNuts
Mr_Orange wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:57 am
What is the current status of the BDR-212DBK 5.25" internal drive?
As far as I am aware, all 212DBK's still have firmware that is pre 12/2022 so can be cross-flashed (unless someone has updated it).
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:44 am
by clichekhfan
My BDR-XS07 has become enabled when it was not before, at least on windows. My verbatim BU4ON says possible, not yet enabled which is the same as before.
I have screenshots and firmware dumps.
https://drive.proton.me/urls/P3BWP401SM#UqwsC9OveAVr
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:48 am
by Mr_Orange
MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:28 am
Mr_Orange wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:57 am
What is the current status of the BDR-212DBK 5.25" internal drive?
As far as I am aware, all 212DBK's still have firmware that is pre 12/2022 so can be cross-flashed (unless someone has updated it).
Thanks. Does the cross-flashing involve an additional cost?
Are there any other Pioneer 5.25" internal drives worth keeping an eye out for?
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:52 am
by MartyMcNuts
Mr_Orange wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:48 am
MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:28 am
Mr_Orange wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:57 am
What is the current status of the BDR-212DBK 5.25" internal drive?
As far as I am aware, all 212DBK's still have firmware that is pre 12/2022 so can be cross-flashed (unless someone has updated it).
Thanks. Does the cross-flashing involve an additional cost?
Are there any other Pioneer 5.25" internal drives worth keeping an eye out for?
Yes, $25.00 I believe. Ask Billycar11.
All 5.25" Pioneer models are extremley difficult to get and appear to be unavailable pretty much everwhere.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:54 am
by MartyMcNuts
The Verbatim contains a LG BU40N. These must be flashed to enable LibreDrive and UHD readability.
The SDF update and out of the box libredrive support is only for Pioneer drives.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:26 am
by clichekhfan
MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:54 am
The Verbatim contains a LG BU40N. These must be flashed to enable LibreDrive and UHD readability.
The SDF update and out of the box libredrive support is only for Pioneer drives.
Is that something billy can do? my BU4ON is rev 1.05, firmware 2014-04-23. any drive that I can upgrade to UHD would definitely be worth it.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:30 am
by MartyMcNuts
clichekhfan wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:26 am
MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:54 am
The Verbatim contains a LG BU40N. These must be flashed to enable LibreDrive and UHD readability.
The SDF update and out of the box libredrive support is only for Pioneer drives.
Is that something billy can do? my BU4ON is rev 1.05, firmware 2014-04-23. any drive that I can upgrade to UHD would definitely be worth it.
You can flash it yourself or contact Billycar11 or see my signature.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:39 am
by mike admin
Few notes about UHD and cross-flashing
- I'm not the person who wrote the crossflash tool, although I know all the details about the process.
- Currently the flashing process is quite fragile, in many senses. It carries a risk of bricking the drive and it (ab)uses certain firmware vulnerabilities, which being fixed would make life much harder going forward.
- Technically, it is possible to crossflash any drive with any firmware version. There is no public or private tool to do so for 2022+ firmwares.
- We are evaluating all options, including enabling UHD access without firmware flash. It is still unknown if this is possible at all.
My take is that UHD access will be enabled eventually, one way or another. When and how will this happen - I do not know yet.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:38 am
by Mr_Orange
mike admin wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:39 am
Few notes about UHD and cross-flashing
- I'm not the person who wrote the crossflash tool, although I know all the details about the process.
- Currently the flashing process is quite fragile, in many senses. It carries a risk of bricking the drive and it (ab)uses certain firmware vulnerabilities, which being fixed would make life much harder going forward.
- Technically, it is possible to crossflash any drive with any firmware version. There is no public or private tool to do so for 2022+ firmwares.
- We are evaluating all options, including enabling UHD access without firmware flash. There is still unknown if this is possible at all.
My take it that UHD access will be enabled eventually, one way or another. When and how will this happen - I do not know yet.
Thank you, that's really helpful background information to share.
Given the scarcity of Pioneer drives, their (now) inflated prices, the proliferation of Chinese sellers on eBay (I smell fakes but could be wrong) and the flashing risk, I think I'll just pick up another LG BH16NS55 to go with the Verbatim (Pioneer) 43888 that I have. My last one served me well for 6-7 years.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:28 pm
by VA1DER
Mr_Orange wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:38 am
the proliferation of Chinese sellers on eBay (I smell fakes but could be wrong)
What is happening on
eBay and Ali Express is they have smelled chum in the water. They get their hands on something like a BDR-PR1JAME, an essentially useless drive, and they sell them with the note "We have various drives, including ________" where _______ is a list of drives that include some really shiny models. They sometimes even offer to have you message them with the model you want, but inevitably you end up getting the useless one. Don't fall for it.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:26 pm
by PrimoAngelo
Mine XD07TUHD is not enabled even with new sdf.bin file. Anyone can help? Thank you!
Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD07U
Revision: 1.05
Serial number: ---------
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 65
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8D31
Firmware version: ID05
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:32 pm
by Coopervid
PrimoAngelo wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:26 pm
Mine XD07TUHD is not enabled even with new sdf.bin file. Anyone can help? Thank you!
Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD07U
Revision: 1.05
Serial number: ---------
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 65
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8D31
Firmware version: ID05
No. Not yet. We need to wait for a solution by Mike.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:37 pm
by mike admin
PrimoAngelo wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:26 pm
Mine XD07TUHD is not enabled even with new sdf.bin file. Anyone can help? Thank you!
With new SDF.bin the program should produce a big dump file, about 2MB in size. Once we get this dump file, drive will be enabled next day. Or, the official firmware update file would work too.
Re: SDF update November 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:44 pm
by PrimoAngelo
mike admin wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:37 pm
PrimoAngelo wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:26 pm
Mine XD07TUHD is not enabled even with new sdf.bin file. Anyone can help? Thank you!
With new SDF.bin the program should produce a big dump file, about 2MB in size. Once we get this dump file, drive will be enabled next day. Or, the official firmware update file would work too.
Perfect, thx. I sent the FW dump to
support@makemkv.com