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Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm**

yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm So my solution is to convert the best quality audio in my language if it's not supported. I do it with ffmpeg converting to EAC3 5.1 1536kbps, and adding it as default audio track. Practically there is no film with more than 5.1 channels in my language and my ear can't distinguish the new track from the original.

E-AC3 1536kbps from ffmpeg is really good, much better than lossy DTS 1536kbps and very close to DTS-HD quality. I just wish ffmpeg supported 7.1 channel. https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=177346&page=4

yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm it's confirmed by Google technical support, who I asked about this.

Did they say if they are ever going to change that?

yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm
RESET_9999, Manix or other member that can answer, do you know if there is a substantial loss of quality with the CCwGTV playing DV FEL files in LLDV compared with TV-Led.

I think the problem is something in the RPU not being applied correctly so yeah there is some quality loss like the Vincent video showed. FEL or MEL, the bug is the same.
We will know more when the new Spears and Munsil disc is out

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:30 pm**

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm
yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm So my solution is to convert the best quality audio in my language if it's not supported. I do it with ffmpeg converting to EAC3 5.1 1536kbps, and adding it as default audio track. Practically there is no film with more than 5.1 channels in my language and my ear can't distinguish the new track from the original.
E-AC3 1536kbps from ffmpeg is really good, much better than lossy DTS 1536kbps and very close to DTS-HD quality. I just wish ffmpeg supported 7.1 channel. https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=177346&page=4

Me too, perhaps in a future

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm
yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm it's confirmed by Google technical support, who I asked about this.

Did they say if they are ever going to change that?

Absolutely, I have to wait almost 2 months to receive the answer, so they will escalate the question to the "next level of technical support", and the reply was as concised as I told. I've never reply again, they're too slow and brief.

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm I think the problem is something in the RPU not being applied correctly so yeah there is some quality loss like the Vincent video showed. FEL or MEL, the bug is the same.
We will know more when the new Spears and Munsil disc is out

Ok, I just found this thread: https://www.avforums.com/threads/is-dol ... 299/page-2
A user says: "So Dolby Vision on HZ series isn't as bad as I thought overall. HZ1000 paired with newest Chromecast didn't show the same issues as with Sony X700 in player-led mode. Comparing TV-led output from X700 and player-led from Chromecast, I couldn't spot any differences - APL seemed equal, highlights were nice and bright without any differences in clipping and couldn't see any added posterization. And no frame-skipping of course, as expected from player-led. All blu-ray players should perform equally in terms of player-led output quality so I doubt it's my X700's fault, but nice to see that player-led is usuable on some of the streaming devices at least."

Thanks for your reply

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:37 pm**

yossSP wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:30 pm Ok, I just found this thread: https://www.avforums.com/threads/is-dol ... 299/page-2
A user says: "So Dolby Vision on HZ series isn't as bad as I thought overall. HZ1000 paired with newest Chromecast didn't show the same issues as with Sony X700 in player-led mode. Comparing TV-led output from X700 and player-led from Chromecast, I couldn't spot any differences - APL seemed equal, highlights were nice and bright without any differences in clipping and couldn't see any added posterization. And no frame-skipping of course, as expected from player-led. All blu-ray players should perform equally in terms of player-led output quality so I doubt it's my X700's fault, but nice to see that player-led is usuable on some of the streaming devices at least."

Thanks for your reply

Maybe something changed since then but when I had a Chromecast (months ago), I checked the lldv bug and it was as bad as the x700 or the shield.
With the Spears and munsil Eagle beak scene, you can't miss it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:36 pm**

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm
We will know more when the new Spears and Munsil disc is out

Is there an ETA for that, do you know?

Thanks.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:48 pm**

DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:36 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm
We will know more when the new Spears and Munsil disc is out
Is there an ETA for that, do you know?

Thanks.

No date yet
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... 27&page=51
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/spears ... 80/page-80

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:14 pm**

RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:30 pm
Check the video resolution.
3840x2160 = black bars hardcoded or 16:9 content

cropped video resolution will be something like this: 3840x1600

Now, I have one 4K HDR10 Blu-ray disc and I want to remux to DV.
Please tell me the way to do, detail in step by step because I'm learning at remux DV.
Sorry, my English is very bad.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:03 pm**

RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:16 pm
I meant, converting to profile 8 allows me to playback in HDR10(in SDR actually) on my PJ and in DV on my TV.

Do you play all Dolby Vision media on your tv using the Sony x700 via USB or across a home network?

Thanks for sharing so much info and replying to my queries, really appreciated.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:29 pm**

Albano wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:14 pm Now, I have one 4K HDR10 Blu-ray disc and I want to remux to DV.
Please tell me the way to do, detail in step by step because I'm learning at remux DV.
Sorry, my English is very bad.

Sorry English is not my native tongue too so there's not much more I can do to help you. Everything you need is in the video and once you understand how to edit the bat file to your path (right-click/modify), you just have to replicate what I do.

E.G.: the INJECT bat file command is:

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D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin

If you happen to have a D:\ drive , just put the Dolby-Vision-Tools folder (without renaming it) there.
if your drive is for example F:\ then just edit all the bat and replace D:\ by F:\

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F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin

if you only have1 drive, a C:\ drive and your working folder is the video folder ( C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos ), same thing. put the Dolby-Vision-Tools folder (without renaming it) there.

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C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin

DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:03 pm Do you play all Dolby Vision media on your tv using the Sony x700 via USB or across a home network?
Thanks for sharing so much info and replying to my queries, really appreciated.

yeah, I use my x700 via USB for DoVi but sometimes I'm too lazy to transfer a movie on my USB drive so I just watch it with my C8 internal plex app.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:55 am**

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:29 pm
Sorry English is not my native tongue too so there's not much more I can do to help you. Everything you need is in the video and once you understand how to edit the bat file to your path (right-click/modify), you just have to replicate what I do.

E.G.: the INJECT bat file command is:
Code: Select all
D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in D:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin
If you happen to have a D:\ drive , just put the Dolby-Vision-Tools folder (without renaming it) there.
if your drive is for example F:\ then just edit all the bat and replace D:\ by F:\
Code: Select all
F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in F:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin
if you only have1 drive, a C:\ drive and your working folder is the video folder ( C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos ), same thing. put the Dolby-Vision-Tools folder (without renaming it) there.
Code: Select all
C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in C:\Users\your.windows.username\Videos\Dolby-Vision-Tools\rpu.bin

Thanks for replying.
Is this tool the same tool used to scan video files in your clips?
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/madvr- ... s.3040072/

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:08 pm**

@Albano it use the same madvr but you only need it if you want to add a peak brightness or dynamic clipping. I didn't use it in the video.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:34 pm**

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:29 pm
yeah, I use my x700 via USB for DoVi but sometimes I'm too lazy to transfer a movie on my USB drive so I just watch it with my C8 internal plex app.

Is the internal Plex app better than the modified Exoplayer for Dolby Vision playback, do you know? A friend of mine owns a LG C9 and I’m not sure which would be the better app for him to use? He doesn’t have a media library of his own so doesn’t need that feature for Plex at this time.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:55 pm**

Is there no way whatsoever to play a FEL profile 7 DV movie without using a bluray + bluray player on my LG C1 OLED?

I can get 8.1 to work on Jellyfin (using tsmuxer + yusesope's tool + dlb_mp4base on the BDMV dirs to convert to DV 8.1), but testing on the movie 1917 it actually looks a bit darker in DV profile 8.1 than ordinary HDR10 (maybe that's how it's supposed to look, idk...). Should I just stick to HDR10 to get rid of this headache?

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:35 pm**

DolbyVisionFTW wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:34 pm Is the internal Plex app better than the modified Exoplayer for Dolby Vision playback, do you know? A friend of mine owns a LG C9 and I’m not sure which would be the better app for him to use? He doesn’t have a media library of his own so doesn’t need that feature for Plex at this time.

I never tried the modified exoplayer. I have no issue with plex on my C8 with P8 + EAC3 1536kbps TS files. Single-track P7 FEL also works but not all of them.
What I really like about plex is that I can play my DoVi remux anywhere in the world with the remote access (obviously you need fast internet).

nissen22 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:55 pm Is there no way whatsoever to play a FEL profile 7 DV movie without using a bluray + bluray player on my LG C1 OLED?

Well, the Chromecast is not a bluray player and can do FEL.

nissen22 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:55 pm but testing on the movie 1917 it actually looks a bit darker in DV profile 8.1 than ordinary HDR10 (maybe that's how it's supposed to look, idk...). Should I just stick to HDR10 to get rid of this headache?

DoVi is supposed to be closer to how it looked on the mastering monitor when they graded it. So unless it's the lldv bug thing, it's probably HDR10 that is too bright there because a static curve cannot adapt to the scene like DV can.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:10 pm**

nissen22 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:55 pm Is there no way whatsoever to play a FEL profile 7 DV movie without using a bluray + bluray player on my LG C1 OLED?

I can get 8.1 to work on Jellyfin...

Did they publish their client for WebOS? Not according to their website: coming soon, at least for 1 year.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:12 pm**

chros wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:10 pm
nissen22 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:55 pm Is there no way whatsoever to play a FEL profile 7 DV movie without using a bluray + bluray player on my LG C1 OLED?

I can get 8.1 to work on Jellyfin...
Did they publish their client for WebOS? Not according to their website: coming soon, at least for 1 year.

Yes, but it is not on the webos store. If you look at the Jellyfin github you can see how to install it using WebOS Developer Mode. It works pretty well.

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