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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:28 pm
by kazuma
i think the battle lost against DV-MKV remux? (dual-layer)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:40 pm
by darrrkmanxxx
liamtoh1 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:45 am What am I doing wrong? DV is not triggered when playing MKV files via Plex and Shield Pro
TV: Sony 900H (supports full DV profile)
HDMI3 - set to DV

Plex Player: Shield Pro (2019) using latest Plex App. Hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch.
Tried 2 different resolution settings - 4K 23.976 Hz and 4K 59.940 Hz

Plex Server: On a desktop PC (hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch) and library also on a HDD with movies ripped using latest MakeMKV 1.16.3
Receiver: Denon X3300W (2016 model and also supports DV).
All cables are Monoprice Premium Certified HDMI cables

Media Info for the movies mention the HDR format to be DV dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU

Example movies. LOTR, Indiana Jones, Black Panther, Matrix.
Look here:
https://forums.plex.tv/t/mkv-dolby-visi ... -13/709687

I've opened this a while ago, no change since then, so just sticking to the old version of plex. Does anyone know if Jellyfin can playback dv in mkv?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:05 pm
by liamtoh1
darrrkmanxxx wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:40 pm
liamtoh1 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:45 am What am I doing wrong? DV is not triggered when playing MKV files via Plex and Shield Pro
TV: Sony 900H (supports full DV profile)
HDMI3 - set to DV

Plex Player: Shield Pro (2019) using latest Plex App. Hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch.
Tried 2 different resolution settings - 4K 23.976 Hz and 4K 59.940 Hz

Plex Server: On a desktop PC (hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch) and library also on a HDD with movies ripped using latest MakeMKV 1.16.3
Receiver: Denon X3300W (2016 model and also supports DV).
All cables are Monoprice Premium Certified HDMI cables

Media Info for the movies mention the HDR format to be DV dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU

Example movies. LOTR, Indiana Jones, Black Panther, Matrix.
Look here:
https://forums.plex.tv/t/mkv-dolby-visi ... -13/709687

I've opened this a while ago, no change since then, so just sticking to the old version of plex. Does anyone know if Jellyfin can playback dv in mkv?
DV started working after updating firmware on my Sony 900H and factory reset of Shield Pro.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:42 am
by darrrkmanxxx
liamtoh1 wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:05 pm
darrrkmanxxx wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:40 pm
liamtoh1 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:45 am What am I doing wrong? DV is not triggered when playing MKV files via Plex and Shield Pro
TV: Sony 900H (supports full DV profile)
HDMI3 - set to DV

Plex Player: Shield Pro (2019) using latest Plex App. Hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch.
Tried 2 different resolution settings - 4K 23.976 Hz and 4K 59.940 Hz

Plex Server: On a desktop PC (hardwired to AX86U router using Cat6 via switch) and library also on a HDD with movies ripped using latest MakeMKV 1.16.3
Receiver: Denon X3300W (2016 model and also supports DV).
All cables are Monoprice Premium Certified HDMI cables

Media Info for the movies mention the HDR format to be DV dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU

Example movies. LOTR, Indiana Jones, Black Panther, Matrix.
Look here:
https://forums.plex.tv/t/mkv-dolby-visi ... -13/709687

I've opened this a while ago, no change since then, so just sticking to the old version of plex. Does anyone know if Jellyfin can playback dv in mkv?
DV started working after updating firmware on my Sony 900H and factory reset of Shield Pro.
With the latest ver of plex? dvhe 07.06 in mkv container?
On my Philips TV 65OLED934/12 I always have to revert back to plex ver 8.12.2.22756.

Even if it's 8.12.3, it stops playing back dvhe 07.06 mkv files

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:33 pm
by liamtoh1
darrrkmanxxx wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:42 am
liamtoh1 wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:05 pm DV started working after updating firmware on my Sony 900H and factory reset of Shield Pro.
With the latest ver of plex? dvhe 07.06 in mkv container?
On my Philips TV 65OLED934/12 I always have to revert back to plex ver 8.12.2.22756.
Even if it's 8.12.3, it stops playing back dvhe 07.06 mkv files
I rechecked today.
The Plex Player App on my Shield and on my Sony 900H TV are the same version 8.20.0.26605.
The Plex Server version 1.23.4.4805 is running on Windows 10. There was a recent update to the PMS, but no impact on DV (before/after server version update).
MKV files were created with MakeMKV version 1.16.3 and it shows "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible"

When running Plex app on Sony TV, I make sure that I choose non-HD audio stream. For Shield/Plex, I choose HD audio (I connect Shield to AVR). In both instances, DV is triggered on my TV. I also verified that both, audio and video, is Direct Play and there is no transcoding.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:22 pm
by saf001
This is the only way I can get Dolby Vision to work in my setup.

Sony 950H->Native Plex App->non-HD audio->Dolby Vision works
Nvidia Shield 2019 Pro->Plex App->Any audio HD included->Dolby Vision works

Both Sony and Shield are hard wired with the content coming off a Linux server with NAS storage (ZFS). Sometimes I'll get some stuttering and I'm not sure what is causing this. I think it may be related to audio which is odd since everything passes through the Denon 4700 AVR.

One backup, Ne Zha, displayed the horrible red issue that has been discussed here from time to time with Dolby Vision. That was unwatchable. Other than that when everything aligns the picture is incredible.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:33 pm
by liamtoh1
saf001 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:22 pm Sony 950H->Native Plex App->non-HD audio->Dolby Vision works
Nvidia Shield 2019 Pro->Plex App->Any audio HD included->Dolby Vision works
This is same for me except replacing 950H/Denon 4700 (your devices) with my Sony 900H/Denon X3300W AVR.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:20 pm
by whatsmyname
Does anyone know if the new Reavon player can play Dolby Vision .mkv?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:58 pm
by glc650
whatsmyname wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:20 pm Does anyone know if the new Reavon player can play Dolby Vision .mkv?
The better question is if it plays DTDL FEL. Also, the speed of the network port.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:10 pm
by mulucy
Are you guys aware someone from BHD ( and some other trackers ) came up with a script to use the online WEB-DL DV layer and combine it with a UHD disk HDR10 layer? Like the movies from Disney Plus. It's DV with streaming, but HDR10 with the UHD disks. As I am typing this, I am trying to get my hands on the script. Will share it once I have it.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:00 pm
by liamtoh1
mulucy wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:10 pm Are you guys aware someone from BHD ( and some other trackers ) came up with a script to use the online WEB-DL DV layer and combine it with a UHD disk HDR10 layer? Like the movies from Disney Plus. It's DV with streaming, but HDR10 with the UHD disks. As I am typing this, I am trying to get my hands on the script. Will share it once I have it.
Interesting. Looing forward to this, especially, if can be combined with ripped MKV HDR10 titles

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:02 pm
by mulucy
liamtoh1 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:00 pm
mulucy wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:10 pm Are you guys aware someone from BHD ( and some other trackers ) came up with a script to use the online WEB-DL DV layer and combine it with a UHD disk HDR10 layer? Like the movies from Disney Plus. It's DV with streaming, but HDR10 with the UHD disks. As I am typing this, I am trying to get my hands on the script. Will share it once I have it.
Interesting. Looing forward to this, especially, if can be combined with ripped MKV HDR10 titles
There is already Marvel Endgame 2019 remux available in P8 and HDR10 compatible. It works with most devices like Fire TV, Shield and etc. The DV RPU was extracted from Disney Plus and it was later combined with the HDR10 later from UHD Disk. I am working on getting the script. Wish me luck!
edit:
I was pointed here - https://github.com/quietvoid/dovi_tool

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:06 pm
by shawnc22
mulucy wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:02 pm
liamtoh1 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:00 pm
mulucy wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:10 pm Are you guys aware someone from BHD ( and some other trackers ) came up with a script to use the online WEB-DL DV layer and combine it with a UHD disk HDR10 layer? Like the movies from Disney Plus. It's DV with streaming, but HDR10 with the UHD disks. As I am typing this, I am trying to get my hands on the script. Will share it once I have it.
Interesting. Looing forward to this, especially, if can be combined with ripped MKV HDR10 titles
There is already Marvel Endgame 2019 remux available in P8 and HDR10 compatible. It works with most devices like Fire TV, Shield and etc. The DV RPU was extracted from Disney Plus and it was later combined with the HDR10 later from UHD Disk. I am working on getting the script. Wish me luck!
edit:
I was pointed here - https://github.com/quietvoid/dovi_tool
Looks like that's quietvoid's tool. Nice work @quietvoid!

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:16 pm
by quietvoid
FWIW the profile conversion has been available for a couple months.
I just recently added ways to manipulate the metadata enough to be able to get it usable for different video (different length, letterbox bars, etc.)

The profile 5 to 8 is still very much experimental, and I'm not even sure if there's an advantage in using it when real profile 5 video is available.
Profile 5 colorspace is also significantly better for compression, so it might still look better than "hybrid" HDR10 file, picture quality wise.

Everything is based on Dolby's sample streams, which are the same content available in both profiles.
The code basically only leaves trim passes and analysed min/max/avg brightness parts of the metadata untouched (so all the metadata blocks).
The coefficients are changed to match profile 7/8.

So far there has not been any objective comparison between original profile 5 and converted profile 8.
If anyone finds something weird, I'm always open to suggestions on Github.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:16 pm
by shawnc22
quietvoid wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:16 pm So far there has not been any objective comparison between original profile 5 and converted profile 8.
Sounds like a challenge for @RESET_9999 and @Mannix if they're still around! The bitrate upgrade in the hybrid may be worth the trouble if the comparisons look relatively similar in terms of brightness levels