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RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:17 am Just got a Chromecast, and I confirm that it's a FEL DV capable device. The ending credits of Power rangers is bright white... FEL noise visible on test file as confirmed before. great player for my bedroom TV

player-led and tv-led seem to be behaving strangely ... on my C8 OLED I'm only getting LLDV(player-led) but on my cheap Vizio TV which doesn't support LLDV I get TV-led DV. HDR10 and SDR are color accurate.
*tested iTunes, Movies Anywhere, and PLEX

also, no red push in the Dr. Sleep p7 rip. The Shield is really the only device that has color issues and yet, the nvidia staff still say that they don't see any difference ...

dvidebaek wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 am
Is that the new one with Google TV?

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:17 am Just got a Chromecast, and I confirm that it's a FEL DV capable device. The ending credits of Power rangers is bright white... FEL noise visible on test file as confirmed before. great player for my bedroom TV

player-led and tv-led seem to be behaving strangely ... on my C8 OLED I'm only getting LLDV(player-led) but on my cheap Vizio TV which doesn't support LLDV I get TV-led DV. HDR10 and SDR are color accurate.
*tested iTunes, Movies Anywhere, and PLEX

also, no red push in the Dr. Sleep p7 rip. The Shield is really the only device that has color issues and yet, the nvidia staff still say that they don't see any difference ...

chros wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:25 pm Thanks for chiming in, it's good to talk to people who know their stuff

But I think this case is different: if I'm not mistaken, reset9999 has an LG C8, I have a B8 (apart form the peak nit capability they behave the same), these sets also do type 3 (not 2).
This is how it responds to various HDR10 metadata, so let's assume 1000 nits maxCLL.
I'll post similar graphs about 4 DoVi presets tomorrow, but even the most accurate Cinema preset brightens the image between 30%-70%, and that is clearly visible with normal content as well.

I only used SDR to DoVi upconversion with the Oppo, I observed 2 drawbacks (compared to 3dlut profiled SDR preset), hence I stopped using it:
- "shadow detail" is sometimes way more elevated almost at disturbing level (maybe it is related to the aformentioned brightening of middle range)
- colors get desaturated sometimes

I'm not sure what exactly the reason behind these, because most of the sime there's no issue at all.

mulucy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:19 pm A question about the Shield, is it confirmed that its playing the FEL DV with noise and Power Range ending credit scene tests?

chros wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
I've added the B8 DoVi graphs into the post above.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:04 pm

mulucy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:19 pm A question about the Shield, is it confirmed that its playing the FEL DV with noise and Power Range ending credit scene tests?

The shield only supports MEL DV. it will play the FEL rip but will not decode the EL and will use only the dynamic metadata in RPU.
power rangers ending credits is dark grey and no FEL noise on the sample test file.

chros wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
I've added the B8 DoVi graphs into the post above.

thank you

chros wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
I've added the B8 DoVi graphs into the post above.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:30 pm

chros wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
I've added the B8 DoVi graphs into the post above.

so since my TV use maxcll (or MDL when no maxcll) and because maxcll is not very reliable(often incorrect), is it better to use madvr ''output in hdr'' with peak set to 700nits? what do you use ?

mulucy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:28 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:04 pm

mulucy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:19 pm A question about the Shield, is it confirmed that its playing the FEL DV with noise and Power Range ending credit scene tests?

The shield only supports MEL DV. it will play the FEL rip but will not decode the EL and will use only the dynamic metadata in RPU.
power rangers ending credits is dark grey and no FEL noise on the sample test file.

chros wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
I've added the B8 DoVi graphs into the post above.

thank you

I appreciate it, thank you! I don't have any HD audio set up, will go with Google TV w Chromecast.

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:17 am Just got a Chromecast, and I confirm that it's a FEL DV capable device. The ending credits of Power rangers is bright white... FEL noise visible on test file as confirmed before. great player for my bedroom TV

player-led and tv-led seem to be behaving strangely ... on my C8 OLED I'm only getting LLDV(player-led) but on my cheap Vizio TV which doesn't support LLDV I get TV-led DV. HDR10 and SDR are color accurate.
*tested iTunes, Movies Anywhere, and PLEX

also, no red push in the Dr. Sleep p7 rip. The Shield is really the only device that has color issues and yet, the nvidia staff still say that they don't see any difference ...

DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:40 am

mulucy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:28 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:04 pm
The shield only supports MEL DV. it will play the FEL rip but will not decode the EL and will use only the dynamic metadata in RPU.
power rangers ending credits is dark grey and no FEL noise on the sample test file.



thank you

I appreciate it, thank you! I don't have any HD audio set up, will go with Google TV w Chromecast.

Hi, remember the GTVwCC does not support frame rate matching.

XTrojan wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:19 am
Hi! does it support MKV DV? And is there any issues like the ugoos had?

mulucy wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:42 pm It should not be a big deal since I never use that functionality with my Vizio TV. The ladder is doing pretty good job removing any judder. But wonder if Google is planning on releasing a software update soon to address it.

Another question, is everybody using Plex to play the FEL files on GTVwCC?

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:38 pm

XTrojan wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:19 am
Hi! does it support MKV DV? And is there any issues like the ugoos had?

yes, it supports DV MKV in PLEX, and from my quick testing session, it seems stable but I didn't watch a whole FEL movie yet. Lossy audio must be selected before playback otherwise the server complains about not being fast enough to convert truehd. At least lossy audio bitstreaming works. Also, this is a wifi device, so not sure how it handles the high-bitrate movies but should be fine thanks to the 5ghz. network info app showed 433 Mbps.

mulucy wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:42 pm It should not be a big deal since I never use that functionality with my Vizio TV. The ladder is doing pretty good job removing any judder. But wonder if Google is planning on releasing a software update soon to address it.

Another question, is everybody using Plex to play the FEL files on GTVwCC?

it doesn't auto-match the frame rate but there is a 23.976 mode in display settings so there is no judder and playback is smooth on the app I tested(plex, iTunes, movies anywhere).
there's no 24fps mode so most of the original Netflix movies will stutter every 42sec in 23.976. 60hz will be fine.

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:38 pm Also, this is a wifi device, so not sure how it handles the high-bitrate movies but should be fine thanks to the 5ghz. network info app showed 433 Mbps(which is obviously spec speed and not real-world speed).

captainbrent wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:04 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:38 pm Also, this is a wifi device, so not sure how it handles the high-bitrate movies but should be fine thanks to the 5ghz. network info app showed 433 Mbps(which is obviously spec speed and not real-world speed).

Apparently, there is an optional power adapter with built in ethernet capability! Unfortunately with only lossy audio, this is not for me.