Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[jedd_ai]

how do you activate auto-frame rate match in KODI ? i found the setting on plex and it works but it doesn't match the frame rate on Kodi.... sorry for the noob question, I'm not used to those android apps/device, I'm an HTPC guy.

SDR colors are off (tested both kodi and plex.. both the same): https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12058

I tried many different settings but it looks like HDR10 is always sent in 8bit on this device. (tested plex and kodi, both the same)
resulting in incorrect colors: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12059



going to compare DV with my x700 now but I'm no more optimistic...

In Kodi it should be Settings->Player-> Adjust display refresh rate = Always

How did you enable Amlogic on-screen debug output? Do you have their tool?

[RESET_9999]

just as a comparison, the x700 does a muchhhh better job with SDR and HDR10... Same accuracy with my win10 HTPC/madVR.

SDR: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12060
HDR10: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12062

In Kodi it should be Settings->Player-> Adjust display refresh rate = Always

How did you enable Amlogic on-screen debug output? Do you have their tool?

thank you
i get the osd by connecting my hdfury vertex in the chain.

[jayper]

how do you activate auto-frame rate match in KODI ? i found the setting on plex and it works but it doesn't match the frame rate on Kodi.... sorry for the noob question, I'm not used to those android apps/device, I'm an HTPC guy.

Make sure you have your settings in "Expert Mode."

To do this, go to Settings > Player > Toggle the "gear" icon in the bottom left until it stays "Expert"

You can then change the "Adjust display refresh rate" setting to "Always."

[dysprosium]

how do you activate auto-frame rate match in KODI ? i found the setting on plex and it works but it doesn't match the frame rate on Kodi.... sorry for the noob question, I'm not used to those android apps/device, I'm an HTPC guy.

SDR colors are off (tested both kodi and plex.. both the same): https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12058

I tried many different settings but it looks like HDR10 is always sent in 8bit on this device. (tested plex and kodi, both the same)
resulting in incorrect colors: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12059

going to compare DV with my x700 now but I'm no more optimistic...

Hi RESET_9999, could you try SDR and HDR10 tests again after changing: Android Settings > Device Preferences > Display > Dolby Vision > Dolby Vision disable?

I noticed that doing that changed the output colourspace. It would be a huge pain to have to switch this setting on and off manually when switching between SDR/HDR10 and DV content, but let's at least see if it gives correct colour output first.

[RESET_9999]

Hi RESET_9999, could you try SDR and HDR10 tests again after changing: Android Settings > Device Preferences > Display > Dolby Vision > Dolby Vision disable?

I noticed that doing that changed the output colourspace. It would be a huge pain to have to switch this setting on and off manually when switching between SDR/HDR10 and DV content, but let's at least see if it gives correct colour output first.

I think I tried that but I'm not sure so I'll check again. I tried forcing 422 and I was hoping to get 12bit but no luck
444 12bit is possible, it's the x700 HDR10 default mode.. I force 422 on the x700 for the comparison because my capture card doesn't support 444 12bit.

[RESET_9999]

Yep, you have to turn off DV in order to get 12 or 10 bits in HDR10 otherwise you're stuck in 8bit for everything. that sucks!!

I've compared DV with my x700 and it looks pretty much the same to me. My DSLR camera captured a small difference that I didn't notice in real life. MUCH better than the Shield for sure!!!

x700 fel vs ugoos fel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12063
ugoos mel vs shield mel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12064

[bobbymkV]

Yep, you have to turn off DV in order to get 12 or 10 bits in HDR10 otherwise you're stuck in 8bit for everything. that sucks!!

We can fix! Now which of us knows the most Chinese to contact support??

Edit: But seriously, that doesn't sound like a hard thing to fix if we could figure out the best channel to contact Ugoos technical team.

[dysprosium]

Yep, you have to turn off DV in order to get 12 or 10 bits in HDR10 otherwise you're stuck in 8bit for everything. that sucks!!

I've compared DV with my x700 and it looks pretty much the same to me. My DSLR camera captured a small difference that I didn't notice in real life. MUCH better than the Shield for sure!!!

x700 fel vs ugoos fel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12063
ugoos mel vs shield mel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12064

That's good news at least; thanks for the extensive testing.

With DV off, are you getting the correct colours now for the SDR/HDR10 test patterns? If so, it's something that should be easy for Ugoos to fix as bobby mentioned (match content colourspace with DV on).

[magnetoeric]

Great to hear that x700 plays DV from the bd structure I had S6700 which also supported bd structure, but the screen used to freeze for few seconds while forwarding/rewinding. Does this mean it's better to go for sony? Unfortunately i can't purchase ugoos or minix at my place.

I just tried the tsmuxer-to-BDMV method on my Sony X700 with Spiderman Homecoming, and I was very pleasantly surprised to see that the forced subs came on in the sandwich shop scene at around 15mins. Forced subs don't work via the m2ts method as far as I know.

Awesome. Btw, does dv still trigger if I convert the already remuxed mkv files in dv to bdmv folder?

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[mattmarsden]

Yep, you have to turn off DV in order to get 12 or 10 bits in HDR10 otherwise you're stuck in 8bit for everything. that sucks!!

I've compared DV with my x700 and it looks pretty much the same to me. My DSLR camera captured a small difference that I didn't notice in real life. MUCH better than the Shield for sure!!!

x700 fel vs ugoos fel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12063
ugoos mel vs shield mel:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12064

That's good news at least; thanks for the extensive testing.

With DV off, are you getting the correct colours now for the SDR/HDR10 test patterns? If so, it's something that should be easy for Ugoos to fix as bobby mentioned (match content colourspace with DV on).

I get round this problem by converting everything to DV, it does a very good job converting SDR and HDR.

[mattmarsden]

Of course if we could get a COREelec DV build that would also mitigate this issue.

[DennisTheMenace]

Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you
recommend,?

Funnily enough I found the Minix loaded with the Ugoos 4.0 firmware to perform slightly better than the Ugoos when using Kodi in terms of stuttering after seeking. I've also found that running the DV mkv through mkvtoolnix after being created in MakeMKV makes it perform in terms of stuttering in Kodi. Hopefully of course all of these issues will be sorted in Kodi. So at the moment my recommendation is to get the Minix and load the Ugoos firmware on it!

When using the minix, after I stop the Dolby vision movie and the Kodi gui shows up I see what looks like another refresh rate change. Also the same when I exit Kodi and go back to the android interface. Do you experience that?

Same problem here everything is buggy, sometimes I have to start a Dolby Vision mkv 3 or 4 times before it works correctly

[Manixx2020beyound]

Ok after a pretty good review of the ugoos so far, ordering mines today, just to have as a backup for the Sony x700fel playback.

Did u guys see Snyder Z, if u have 4hours to spare great remake
But dam all that millions spent twice on the same movie but it is well done this time
Are we really soposed to watch this movie with black bars on the side??

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[RESET_9999]

Ok after a pretty good review of the ugoos so far, ordering mines today, just to have as a backup for the Sony x700fel playback.

Great, can't wait for the shogun comparisons.

With DV off, are you getting the correct colours now for the SDR/HDR10 test patterns? If so, it's something that should be easy for Ugoos to fix as bobby mentioned (match content colourspace with DV on).

I will check this out tonight.

[RESET_9999]

Did u guys see Snyder Z, if u have 4hours to spare great remake
But dam all that millions spent twice on the same movie but it is well done this time
Are we really soposed to watch this movie with black bars on the side??

damn 4:3
and they graded it darker ...

justice league original:
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1016 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 342 cd/m2

justice league snyder version:
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 597 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 122 cd/m2