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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:13 am
by RESET_9999
shawnc22 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:54 am You can just use the decrypted original folder back, too, then without any extra remuxing, no? Any way to possibly do this over the network or USB only?
This is the first thing I tried... :)

you have to remux with tsmuxer. you can't keep the original structure with the menu.
Huge downside though, It only works if the folders are in the root of the USB drive(no network) so I don't think you can use this method with more than 1 movie on a drive. Can be handy for long movies that you can't usually FF when in TS container.

even though the folder is really named BDMV, the x700 sees it as an AVCHD structure:

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:18 am
by mulucy
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:13 am
shawnc22 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:54 am You can just use the decrypted original folder back, too, then without any extra remuxing, no? Any way to possibly do this over the network or USB only?
This is the first thing I tried... :)

you have to remux with tsmuxer. you can't keep the original structure with the menu.
Huge downside though, It only works if the folders are in the root of the USB drive so I don't think you can use this method with more than 1 movie on a drive. Can be handy for long movies that you can't usually FF when in TS container.

even though the folder is really named BDMV, the x700 sees it as an AVCHD structure:

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I wonder why the Blu-Ray community has not hacked the Sony X700 player. It seems like a very capable player. It handles pretty much anything you throw at it ( except the MKV since its something new and I doubt it will ever support it )

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:28 am
by bobbymkV
jayper wrote:Which Ugoos device are we purchasing?
UGOOS AM6 Plus (which has Amlogic S922X-J SoC)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:05 am
by DaMacFunkin
bobbymkV wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:28 am
jayper wrote:Which Ugoos device are we purchasing?
UGOOS AM6 Plus (which has Amlogic S922X-J SoC)
Is the Minix neo running Ugoos firmware a better buy hardware wise or are they the same build quality?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:59 am
by NiCE77
RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:22 pm
mattmarsden wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:09 pm
Use the Kodi DV build and it will do all framerates correctly.
thanks, will try that...


EDIT: yep 23.976 works with kodi .. phew!
With Plex, the 23.976 works too and more DV format supports than Kodi (but no HD audio).

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am
by NiCE77
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:05 am
bobbymkV wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:28 am
jayper wrote:Which Ugoos device are we purchasing?
UGOOS AM6 Plus (which has Amlogic S922X-J SoC)
Is the Minix neo running Ugoos firmware a better buy hardware wise or are they the same build quality?
Same, I have both.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:26 am
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:13 am
shawnc22 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:54 am You can just use the decrypted original folder back, too, then without any extra remuxing, no? Any way to possibly do this over the network or USB only?
This is the first thing I tried... :)

you have to remux with tsmuxer. you can't keep the original structure with the menu.
Huge downside though, It only works if the folders are in the root of the USB drive(no network) so I don't think you can use this method with more than 1 movie on a drive. Can be handy for long movies that you can't usually FF when in TS container.

even though the folder is really named BDMV, the x700 sees it as an AVCHD structure:

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Wait, hold up... So you mean this only works when that hard drive contains nothing but that movie's folders?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am
by baker99
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:13 am
shawnc22 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:54 am You can just use the decrypted original folder back, too, then without any extra remuxing, no? Any way to possibly do this over the network or USB only?
This is the first thing I tried... :)

you have to remux with tsmuxer. you can't keep the original structure with the menu.
Huge downside though, It only works if the folders are in the root of the USB drive(no network) so I don't think you can use this method with more than 1 movie on a drive. Can be handy for long movies that you can't usually FF when in TS container.

even though the folder is really named BDMV, the x700 sees it as an AVCHD structure:

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Makes me wonder if there's a hacky way of having multiple films by building a structure with each film being a separate chapter (yes it would mess up chapters in each individual movie)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:47 am
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:26 am
Wait, hold up... So you mean this only works when that hard drive contains nothing but that movie's folders?
you can have other files/folders in the hdd but only one bluray folder structure in the root will trigger DV.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm
by jedd_ai
NiCE77 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:05 am
bobbymkV wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:28 am UGOOS AM6 Plus (which has Amlogic S922X-J SoC)
Is the Minix neo running Ugoos firmware a better buy hardware wise or are they the same build quality?
Same, I have both.
Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you recommend,?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:13 pm
by mattmarsden
jedd_ai wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm
NiCE77 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am
DaMacFunkin wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:05 am

Is the Minix neo running Ugoos firmware a better buy hardware wise or are they the same build quality?
Same, I have both.
Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you recommend,?
Funnily enough I found the Minix loaded with the Ugoos 4.0 firmware to perform slightly better than the Ugoos when using Kodi in terms of stuttering after seeking. I've also found that running the DV mkv through mkvtoolnix after being created in MakeMKV makes it perform in terms of stuttering in Kodi. Hopefully of course all of these issues will be sorted in Kodi. So at the moment my recommendation is to get the Minix and load the Ugoos firmware on it!

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:21 pm
by DaMacFunkin
mattmarsden wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:13 pm
jedd_ai wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm
NiCE77 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am

Same, I have both.
Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you recommend,?
Funnily enough I found the Minix loaded with the Ugoos 4.0 firmware to perform slightly better than the Ugoos when using Kodi in terms of stuttering after seeking. I've also found that running the DV mkv through mkvtoolnix after being created in MakeMKV makes it perform in terms of stuttering in Kodi. Hopefully of course all of these issues will be sorted in Kodi. So at the moment my recommendation is to get the Minix and load the Ugoos firmware on it!
Cheers Matt, sounds like a plan.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:13 pm
by jedd_ai
mattmarsden wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:13 pm
jedd_ai wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm
NiCE77 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am

Same, I have both.
Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you recommend,?
Funnily enough I found the Minix loaded with the Ugoos 4.0 firmware to perform slightly better than the Ugoos when using Kodi in terms of stuttering after seeking. I've also found that running the DV mkv through mkvtoolnix after being created in MakeMKV makes it perform in terms of stuttering in Kodi. Hopefully of course all of these issues will be sorted in Kodi. So at the moment my recommendation is to get the Minix and load the Ugoos firmware on it!
Thanks.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:18 pm
by magnetoeric
Great to hear that x700 plays DV from the bd structure :D I had S6700 which also supported bd structure, but the screen used to freeze for few seconds while forwarding/rewinding. Does this mean it's better to go for sony? Unfortunately i can't purchase ugoos or minix at my place.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:24 pm
by Big-rome
mattmarsden wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:13 pm
jedd_ai wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm
NiCE77 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am

Same, I have both.
Any difference between Ugoos and Minix in terms of DV format support? Which one would you
recommend,?
Funnily enough I found the Minix loaded with the Ugoos 4.0 firmware to perform slightly better than the Ugoos when using Kodi in terms of stuttering after seeking. I've also found that running the DV mkv through mkvtoolnix after being created in MakeMKV makes it perform in terms of stuttering in Kodi. Hopefully of course all of these issues will be sorted in Kodi. So at the moment my recommendation is to get the Minix and load the Ugoos firmware on it!
When using the minix, after I stop the Dolby vision movie and the Kodi gui shows up I see what looks like another refresh rate change. Also the same when I exit Kodi and go back to the android interface. Do you experience that?