Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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squib
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#46 Post by squib » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:20 pm

@Coopervid - sorry to dogpile on you, but you seem to be the one with the helpful info on getting these drives to read UHD. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: xxxx
Firmware date: 2022-03-16
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID61

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#47 Post by Coopervid » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:05 am

squib wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:20 pm
@Coopervid - sorry to dogpile on you, but you seem to be the one with the helpful info on getting these drives to read UHD. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212D
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: xxxx
Firmware date: 2022-03-16
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F00
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID61
Read your PM.

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#48 Post by squib » Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:50 pm

@Coopervid - Got it and everything works. Thank you.

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#49 Post by dizzy » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:16 pm

I recently got a BDR-213M (comes with 1.05 firmware) and am thinking of returning it and getting instead either a BDR-212DBK or BDR-212V. Any preference between the 2?

I don't care for UHD support but I do want the other features Libre Drive brings, so I assume I'll be able to get those features on either of those 2 drive models, correct? Thanks!

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#50 Post by Zips9280 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:02 am

dizzy wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:16 pm
I recently got a BDR-213M (comes with 1.05 firmware) and am thinking of returning it and getting instead either a BDR-212DBK or BDR-212V. Any preference between the 2?

I don't care for UHD support but I do want the other features Libre Drive brings, so I assume I'll be able to get those features on either of those 2 drive models, correct? Thanks!
IIRC the difference is the V model is OEM to Vinpower, otherwise they are the same drive. The Vinpower model on amazon is a decent deal, especially next to the noisy LG/ASUS drives; I wish I went pioneers from the start! Buy from the links coopersvid sends you, they come with an early enough firmware to flash to a libredrive/uhd firmware. If you get a pioneer that comes with new enough firmware, it can't be downgraded.

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#51 Post by AlteredParadox » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:20 pm

Coopervid wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:41 am
Please post your Makemkv info to make sure you own this drive model.
Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr9
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212V
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: x
Firmware date: 2022-05-31
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 78

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8F00
Firmware version: ID06

No disc inserted

Able to send me the firmware info as well? Thanks!!

dizzy
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#52 Post by dizzy » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:14 am

Just got a BDR-212V:

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Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212V
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2022-05-31
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 78

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8F00
Firmware version: ID06
Is there a way to enable LibreDrive support (I don't care about UHD tho)? Will MakeMKV future updates automatically support LibreDrive for these models? (it says that I should be sending the FW dump file to the support email address)

Now I feel like I should have bought the DBK instead of the V, the DBK seems to have firmware that is "LibreDrive enabled" out of the box...

Billycar11
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#53 Post by Billycar11 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:12 am

dizzy wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:14 am
Just got a BDR-212V:

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Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212V
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2022-05-31
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 78

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8F00
Firmware version: ID06
Is there a way to enable LibreDrive support (I don't care about UHD tho)? Will MakeMKV future updates automatically support LibreDrive for these models? (it says that I should be sending the FW dump file to the support email address)

Now I feel like I should have bought the DBK instead of the V, the DBK seems to have firmware that is "LibreDrive enabled" out of the box...
if you dont care about UHD no point really but email me if you want it flashed it will enable both
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com

dizzy
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

#54 Post by dizzy » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:44 am

Thanks for the offer! From what I've seen the UHD enabling firmware is a cross model flash (firmware from a different model is being flashed on it, right?) and I'd rather not risk doing that especially since I won't be taking advantage of the UHD features. What I really wanted where these LibreDrive features, among others:
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
I think I'm going to return this one too (second Pioneer player return in as many days lol) and get the BDK instead, that one seems to come with LibreDrive support from the get go :)

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